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so i presented a table about profitability of bap games or SUU. there everybody can see and calculate. you said only stop calling it as dangerous, but you did not response to my calculations, where i must earn more than 17$ for 3$ SUU to be in ZERO. at this moment i am in 7.65$. i have 1days remain. instead of ask me stop telling bad infos because nobody share in it, pls let me know, show me why is it good for me, or for every other who (in your opinion) are not sharing in my calculations.
i think we both, you and me can see the simple match in it. and the truth is, 100 SUU user will loose after SUU period. much work for loosing. the only thing i am more rich, i have more visited ad in my counters, which can be useful at APS counter, but if it continues, 2 mosre SUU later i will not be able to upgrade again becauuse my balance will run out. am i wrong? ok ! there is the table you can show me where is the mistake in my calculations! i am here and listen! i can accept if i fail, but you say nothing other than stop it. i presented a proof, now you can show the fault in it.
i will appreciate it if you can show where did i calculate wrong and you can show me this is very profitable to me. at this point i can see this is deficit. sry if it feels bad to you, but this is about money not about say only good. tell only the truth. i accept every helpful comment which SHOWS the mistake in my math. but the math lies not usually.
and i believe only in math instead of bosses PR texts.

so i still await for your simple calculation. (i tested more times, again and again, so i am very excited!)

vsofthu
Traffic Value: $139.48404 Hungary

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11/09/2019 17:01

SLOSUMO:
"@vsofthu unfortunately a lot of Hungarian ip ranges seem to be popular vpn sources so are marked as proxy/dangerous on some vpn checkers. If you can submit a ticket with a few of your ips we could remove the ranges from blacklists if they qtre there"

so its very interesting, because: i login from 2 different geo place, 2 differetn net provider, and you call both as VPN.
how its possible?
you can see easily my login ip addresses, the last is recorded in your database. if my ip changes site force us login. so you can access to my login data in my opinion. its a littlebit crazy your site why call hungarian net providers as VPN? at this moment we can think, the paidverts/ptcshare completely banned two hungarian net provider range. WOW

in this case the site force me to find a REAL vpn and try to use the site from there.. is it enough "fishy" ?

sorry, i just tested from my mobile net provider, its also banned. so at this moment 3 net provider banned at least. WOW

landline1, landline2, mobile1. i think something wrong.. THERE

slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia

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11/09/2019 18:25

@vsofthu It is not us determining if an IP is considered a proxy/VPN/Risky - we simply use several 3rd party services and global blacklists, which use billions of datapoints to regards IPs or IP ranges as risky, and we just use their service for those checks. There is no way for these services to be 100% accurate, as they work off probability algorithms, and could mark a range of IPs as risky if many other IPs from a range were flagged for their activity. This of course leaves room for false positives or in plain words, can consider an IP you are using as risky, even though you've not done nothing wrong.

To ask us to not use these services at all and risk getting thousands in losses from many members that do abuse these IP would be foolish. All we can do in such cases of false positives, is for you to provide data we ask for, so we can whitelist specific Ip ranges on our side, who seem to be blacklisted by the 3rd parties.

So again, if you want this resolved, I suggest to submit a ticket with a list of some specific IPs you're having problems with, and we can whitelist that range. Unfortunately we do not store every single history of every Ip you access with, so getting specific Ips from you is the only way I can surely get something done to resolve this for you.

Furthermore, assuming we'd want to blacklist a country/IP, or deliberately cause our users problems with offers is just so foolish - what do we gain from that? Nothing.

Every offer that a user can complete is beneficial to the business and in our best interests in so many ways. Users get ability to earn additional income of which we make some profit, and also are more likely to use their money in our services, further fueling the business. There is no benefit in causing user bad experiences for anyone, so why would we even attempt to do that?

jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands

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11/09/2019 19:39

its now a few times reported and has been there for 4 days now.
why is the PHP error not being fixed on the cash offers section in PV?

A PHP Error was encountered
Severity: Notice
Message: Undefined property: stdClass::$block
Filename: models/security_model.php
Line Number: 177

druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States

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11/09/2019 21:49

RE the table about SUU

I don't know if that's the right math, but the SUU have never been gurantees (or even high probability of profit).

So, in PV, better just to use the BAP market if you want out now.
IB PTCS there u=is no market.

Personally, the fact they are part of maximise earnings is wrong and should not be listed there.
Play Games is not listed there, and that's what SUU is.

richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines

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12/09/2019 00:44

@vsofthu

Again SUU is risky.

But it can also be profitable if there will be more than $25,000 bulk ads (ranging from $1 to $49 each) sold during the week.

If $25,000 bulk ads are sold during the week, 1% SUU ads will be $2,500 shared between 100 users is $25 for the week for each member.

There's the math.

It is always your option to take the risk or not.

elisamccline
Traffic Value: $4,710.40197 Turkey

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12/09/2019 14:32

Hello friends,

@MarcdeKoning , @slosumo,

I tried to write about it to ptcshare support. And just find this topic. Wish you can solve this.

At 5th September,
I wagered more than 23 million BAP (my calculation is 23832105) But at the end of the day,
I can claim only 11165 BAP ( it is 1 million reward). But it should be 111165 ( lost 100000 BAP)

Time stamp of my claim --> 5.09.2019 23:48 11165 BAP Bonuses Reward 741760

I copied my BAP logs and calculate. If you need I can serve from here.
I already send it to support but I didnt any positive answer for days. (Ticket #C5KE5)

One of the screenshot about this: ( I have some others if you need)
https://prnt.sc/p58yf6

Can you please fix this error and add my lost 100000 BAP.

thanks

Malik7
Traffic Value: $18.78983 Pakistan

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12/09/2019 18:53

Hi everyone
How much is the withdrawal fee of perfect money

elisamccline
Traffic Value: $4,710.40197 Turkey

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12/09/2019 19:29

@Malik7

PM cashot fee: 4.50% + $0.25

Malik7
Traffic Value: $18.78983 Pakistan

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12/09/2019 20:24

Thanks man!

richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines

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13/09/2019 02:35

PTCshare detects my IP as VPN (I get an error when I open the Cash Offers page).

On the other hand, I can open the Cash Offers page at PaidVerts with no problem.

(BTW, I have contacted PTCshare support to whitelist my IP because it is not VPN.)

Mariot
Traffic Value: $2,025.34279 Belgium

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13/09/2019 06:12

Is it good or not to take the random 1% value ads mini?

richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines

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13/09/2019 06:25

No, my advice is don't buy it now.

Mariot
Traffic Value: $2,025.34279 Belgium

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13/09/2019 06:43

Thanks for the info Richiem.

elisamccline
Traffic Value: $4,710.40197 Turkey

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13/09/2019 08:55

Basic and clear calculation about %1 random ads

$1 purchase means 2360 BAP
2360 BAP means $1.18 ADS
It means , when you click $1.18 ADS you earn $0.18

I think it is very clear for everyone. Other calculations based on this with direct proportion.

To earn $0.18 you have to click $1.18 ADS
To earn $2.99 you have to click $19.61 ADS
To earn $19.99 you have to click $131.05 ADS

Hoppa61
Traffic Value: $73,032.40453 Netherlands

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13/09/2019 11:43

You are forgetting the ref.share elisamccline

babycare
Traffic Value: $25,276.97238 Saudi Arabia

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13/09/2019 13:42

@ elisamccline

You have to receive and click a little over $ 24.5 worth of ads to break even on the 2.99 $ suu , when you take into account the fact that you pay 3% of all your click as referral commission.

But you should consider the huge value that a 20 plus dollar ad brings you.

elisamccline
Traffic Value: $4,710.40197 Turkey

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13/09/2019 14:06

@Hoppa61
@babycare

Yess, sorry, it is my fault. Then;

$1 purchase = 2360 BAP
2360 BAP = $1.18 ADS to get (97%) $1.1446
It means , when you click $1.18 ADS you earn $0.1446

To earn $0.1446 you have to click $1.18 ADS
To earn $2.99 you have to click $24.40 ADS
To earn $19.99 you have to click $163.13 ADS

druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States

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13/09/2019 17:49

This earn part also applies to just regular "I want to maintain my BAP, how much do I get in order to repay my self what it cost me to get to my level?"

So, for my 3MIL BAP Group, it cost me $1,275 before fees.
Right now my Group/APS is getting close to $16 (for easy long term math purposes).
That amounts to ~$2 per Group Day or $10 per week.
Which is about 127.5 weeks. Or, ~2 years and 5 months, before fees.
This is all taking into account that for that long time, Group/APS Ads don't go down.

Unlike PV, where you can easily take out your BAP, even at a loss at that time, you "invest" in PTCS, your money is tied up.

All that said, I'm also investing in Vanguard Mutal Funds, and there to get to 100% to withdraw, w/o touching the principal, the goal is 7% a year, on avg long term (like decades). That would mean more like 15 years. When you retire, you are only suppose to take out 3-4% yearly to live off of.

Which means that PTCShare at current rates is closer to 40% ROI.
Can't beat that in the real world.

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