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friend11 Traffic Value: $455.43947 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska) 12 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 19:58 I think that Jo is right when saying that we should allow members to choose how many ads they want to display daily. the option for ad limitations is a good idea. if someone doesn't want to view more than 20 ads per day, that should be his personal choice. he can choose to opt out and only receive 20 ads per day. other people are willing to work for it and would love to click 400+ ads per day - without any problems - and they should be allowed to do so. Obviously the people who click more should get some value back than the ones who have chosen not to click at all and filter everything out. ads have to have some incentives behind them for people to be motivated to click on them, so taking 10-20% from the daily ad issue and putting into low value ads 0.002-0.005 is a good idea.  people shouldn't now blame does who do work daily for not receiving 10-20% in their ad issues if they themselves have chosen to opt out from the clicking. that's their choice. I don't understand why is the captcha so hard. Can anyone please put a screenshot of a hard to do Google recaptcha? they all look rather easy to solve to me. if Solvemedia is unreadable switch to Google recaptcha. Ad delivery is a serious issue and it won't be solved by people just saying "oh, I'm in a higher group so I should only get 20 ads per day, just send to the people at the bottom. yeah, I mean, send them 10 000 x 0.0005 ads every day instead. that will solve the problem. "  ???  No, this will not solve the problem People in the lower groups can't click 10 000 ads per day, just because people in the higher groups don't want to click their due daily ad work. they don't have enough time and motivation for that, and doing this will ONLY motivate them to leave the program. Buying ad filters DOES NOT solve the problem that the system has. It has to deliver like 307 million ads and that number is growing. If everybody buys an ad filter and nobody wants to click on ads, how will paidverts deliver this ads??  Solving an individual's problem by telling him "just buy an ad filter" ignores the main problem that the site is now facing. You have to go through the logic: "If EVERYBODY has the ad filter turned on, then how do we solve the website's problem?" well, perhaps telling people "buy an ad filter" isn't gonna do that. I am glad to hear that Jo is gonna put some % from the daily ad issuess into incentives for people who DO WANT to click on ads. We certainly SHOULD combine getting profit back with doing some work for the website, rather than just taking the same daily profits and give them back for like 10 daily ad issue ads.  koskantz Traffic Value: $3,286.0289 Cyprus 11 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:06  Regarding the ad-delivery issues we have at the moment, I think the is nothing wrong with our system ( or the new system with $1.05 ad packs ); and the only reason they don't get clicked is because people lack the motivation to do so.   I mean why whould anyone want to spend 30sec ( at least) for $0.0005 ? I know I don't. Truth is there is nothing to lose if you recycle it. You can recycle 100 of them per day and still break even with daily activation ( BAP ) ads.  What we need is to make people want to click even the smallest of ads, we need to give value to ads that don't have value.   I'm thinking something in the terms of milestones ( read before you comment on this  ) that don't create dept on the system. Maybe we can create a system that rewards the users on the amount of ads they have clicked.   For example we can create a product ( account ) which can buy up 1% of MTV profitability and distribute it every monday ( when dividents are credited ) to every active user in PV in ratio of the amount of ads he has seen  during the week divided by total ads issued for that week.  -This will make users want to view more ads because they will earn from them.  -It will not cost anything extra of dev-funds ( except buying up shares ).  -It will clear a great amount of shares from the marketplace ( adding more value to the rest ).  -The amount shared per week will grow as MTV-PV grows.  -In the end if it doesn't work you are left with shares that you can sell/keep.  So it's a no cost - no risk solution that could be easy to implement.    Just my thought.   BestGames Traffic Value: $613.52616 Poland 0 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:07 Just stop issue too many ads, that's all. 1 ads pack $1 deliver 40 visits (not 50) and return 1.50 (not 1.55). That's all. People save time as less ads to watch, system save as less ads to deliver and Jo saves $0.05 to return. and who is not happy with that above?? MikeMazzone Traffic Value: $1,181,925.44366 United States 15 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:09 @cabyscorner Excellent question.  I just lowered my ad filter to $0.0015, which I consider ideal for the little guy.  I also just started a thread about paidverts ad delivery. https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/misc/paidverts_delivers.html dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 3 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:12 you could use a step system on the value of the ad based on its age. It starts out as .0005 in value. If no clicks after two weeks it goes up to .001. Two weeks later it becomes .005. Two weeks later it becomes .01. If it still has no clicks, then it goes to its break even value of .02 until it expires We would also use the oldest ads for the daily ad issue. It shouldn't be hard for the system to pick ads relative to date calne Traffic Value: $975.91894 Canada 7 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:16 Honestly I wouldn't mind clicking say 10x1$ ads instead of 1x10$ ad if it helps out and is still get the same value BestGames Traffic Value: $613.52616 Poland 2 like this post 3 people 17/01/2015 20:21  Sorry, I cannot click more than 50 ads per day. - copy and paste three lines - 30 seconds - unreadable captcha (many times) - click to see next ad - click next bonus ad It's sounds like medical procedure for intense care! MichaelKline Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States 0 like this post 1 people 17/01/2015 20:23 Instead of limiting ads as a whole, ads should be limited by value group. No more than, let's say, 100 of any given value. If you reduce a group total by clicking ads, more ads can be issued to that group, until the max is reached again. hlrive Traffic Value: $384.50396 United States 2 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:24 @ koskantz  That is a great plan. However I have a strange feeling then, I would be snatching up all the .00005 recycled ads and clicking until I wore my mouse out, and have to buy another one. However  I can't imagine how I can replace my clicking finger. I almost wore my clicking finger out that day when I clicked over 500 of those things, then finally had it over the $1 so they stopped coming, and then I recycled the last 55 I just couldn't handle it any more. Lucky for me some folks recycled a few higher ads, so I made that $1. Thanks guys. hlrive Traffic Value: $384.50396 United States 0 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:28 @ BestGames You don't have to copy and paste above the X is a little white type of box click it and your X becomes a check mark and the words magically appear. My referrer newguy taught me that, and I have saved loads of time. hrjustinptc - Forum moderator Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States 0 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:29 I still think a better option if the 30 second timer cannot be reduced would be to deliver ads in block that can be clicked in a hour or less. Even if it takes 15-20 minutes per hour to deliver ads that is still 40 minutes between blocks. So then even at a max of 120 per hour thats 2880 ads per day per user. The only issue with getting large volumes of ads is when large volumes all recycle in quick succession.  Here is a rough idea for a pure profit product offer charge ~$.10 cents to reduce the timer to 5 seconds for 1 hour. Then people can bust out tons of low value ads if they have time time to kill. Just a thought maybe it wouldn't be practical I just think the 30 seconds for $0.0005 drives people nuts.  koskantz Traffic Value: $3,286.0289 Cyprus 2 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:29 @hlrive   I'm glad you like my Idea, about your clicking finger I would suggest outsourcing, or train your dog to click ads or something like that DanTheMan Traffic Value: $4,069.99578 Germany 12 like this post 1 people 17/01/2015 20:47 How about something like a weekly or monthly prize for the person who clicked the most ads. $10 for first place and then maybe something for the next 9 places or so. Also, scalable ad timers depending on value: $0.0005 = 5 seconds $0.002 = 10 seconds $0.01 = 15 seconds $0.02 and above = 30 seconds And then change the description of ad deliveries to UP TO 30 seconds (someone mentioned that already, can't remember who sorry) That also ensures that the longer ads automatically get delivered to the bigger fish which advertisers mostly care about anyway. Sorry if any of this was suggested already, I didn't read the whole thread. Arieuqrec Traffic Value: $71.81537 Portugal 0 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:50 If captchas are unreadble than you probably aren't using google captchas and you are still with the solvemedia captchas. jazador Traffic Value: $488.92342 Poland 7 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:53 Well, let me put my two cents in. I think that the main problem with ads clicking is not the laziness of users, but a number of clicks you actually have to perform in order to get paid. Let's count: first you have to log in (and in order not to have your account hacked, the password needs to be long and difficult), then you go to "Members Home Page", now you can start clicking ads: first you choose "Paid Ads" (one click), pick the ad (second click - but if you want to start from the most valuable ones you have to add one more click - "order by value", next you scroll down the page and three clicks for three lines of text, sixth or seventh click for "Proceed to Advertisers Website", then you have to either type the SolveMedia captcha or click "I'm not a robot" from Google re-captcha, then usually you have to type a five letter captcha, then you click "Verify", then "Confirm" and "Close Window". Wow, we are done in how many? 15 clicks at least (yes, fifteen!). And next? you click either "view another ad" or ""Paid Ads" and start again. And if you want to browse through your ads, to see what's already in and what's queued up somwhere, you click page after page, and on and on. And my experience shows that one ad takes ca. 40-55 sec to complete. Why? because after each click there may be an "hang-up" - depending on the quality of your internet connection, your own system performance, PV server's load, etc., taking up to a minute at the worst.  And people have to sleep, eat, go to the bathroom, take care of their everyday duties, look after their children and do their everyday job in the meantime. And that's why I am not able to click much more than a hundred ads on weekdays and never mind the measures that will be taken, for me it's simply impossible to take more upon myself (and not to mention my right upper shoulder muscles condition, after I tried to help last Monday & Tuesday and clicked smth like 500 ads in 2 days). And this was the reason for buying an ad filter and setting it @ $0.011 while originally it was set @ $0.0015 and the latter is the value I would like it to be. I couldn't cope with the flood of $0.01 recycled ads! But this post is not about complaining. I just want to propose some other remedies for the current situation, apart from changing the bulk ad price - btw I don't like this idea due to the fact that many of us are promoting PV on other sites and this will hamper with the contents of promotional materials, which no longer are true (but Jo seems to be fixed on this, so let it be). What we need asap, IMHO, are the following steps: - reducing of the number of clicks required to complete one ad - introduction of shortcut button for "Paid Ads" accessible from everywhere on PV site - automatic return to the previous spot after ad completion - allowing our choice for ads sorting remain valid after viewing the ad (if I sorted them by value, let them remain like that) - and the most important one - getting rid of the captcha scheme in its current form - i.e. introduction of some innovative simplified system of confirming that we actually viewed the ad (like in the other PTCs, but our own design) and leaving captchas only as a random popping-up tool for anti-bot protection (on the average captcha should appear like once in an hour). And if clicking of ads becomes a really user-friendly process, I hitnk that most users would be more than happy to help in delivering all the outstanding clicks / visists and earn more money with this instead of losing their BAP in the recycler's drain or losing parts of their daily ad issue due to the high level of their ad filter. Well, at least I think so. polo26 Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France 0 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 20:53 DanTheMan  i like this idea  --------------------- Also, scalable ad timers depending on value: $0.0005 = 5 seconds $0.002 = 10 seconds $0.01 = 15 seconds $0.02 and above = 30 seconds HELLASion Traffic Value: $150.69194 Greece 7 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 21:00 jazador  I am tottaly agree with the "click" problem//// In order to be more fun for  as clicking more and more ads some shortcuts must be done... For example CHANGE TYPING CAPTHCA. I can't understand this madness with typing.... Solvemedia had problems and again we have typing captcha... Why not choosing pictures or items... ( It will also be more safe against cheaters...). Also i agree with automatic return to paid ads page.... The button "view another" is boring after 50 ads...!!! As i see people have not problem to click more ads , but they just get bored with all these clickings...! Please do not shout at me people...\lol jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 1 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 21:07 I agree with the amount of clicks we must do for 1 ad + a 30 sec timer is way to much and something should be changed there but i believe Jo will come up witha  solution soon =) Also the micto ads are already changed, can you see how much impact that had on the total ads clicked per day since the change from 2 to 4 ? Maybe it can be set to max 10 for the insane clickers among us SijoCJ Traffic Value: $892.42899 India 2 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 21:13 @MikeMazzone Great. There you go!!!!!! JamesRo Traffic Value: $210.46293 Romania 10 like this post 0 people 17/01/2015 21:16 I see lot of complainings about low ads and 98% of them are small users that have no more than $60 Traffic Value... I'm free user, i have 24601 paids ad interactions and I'm still alive!!! 95% of my interactions and 60-70% from my earnings are from $0.0005 and $0.001 daily or recycled Ads. If you know that you don't want to invest any from your pocket, and you are in lower group nobody will give you $10-$500 just for 5 clicks/day. If you don't have patience to click 50-70 small ads day by day acumulate money, buy BAP and reach a higher group it will take long time to reach if you don't view all your ads or recycle them. Do not cmplain that big users have one $500 Ads and demand to split in 500x $1 ads, you have no rights. They invested money to reach in high group and if you want earn equal sum o money invest more money !!! If you want $20/day fast earning without any investment find a job!!!

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