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stark100 Traffic Value: $729.96203 Hungary 1 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 15:28 So you think he is lying? "After all this time i've proven that I stand for what I spread. We are working on it, remain patient [img=19x19]https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/assets20160912/images/forum/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]." vecors Traffic Value: $2,173.146 Portugal 17 like this post 7 people 17/09/2016 15:32 Apart from a few people, all I see here are a bunch of people that will do no matter what to damage MTV or Marc. Do you want MTV to get better but you don`t move one single finger to help on that. You call our games worthless and Coin Flip alone has generate $500.000 in revenues (profits!)  Listen to the crowd? More and more I believe MTV should NOT listen to the crowd. Everybody kept talking for months about MultiPlayer Poker and how awesome it would be and bla bla bla... check the results.. And learn how to separate professional and personal life of people. I will delete every single post that is not MTV related or is just saying BS. Different opinions of course are accepted but do it with respect and leave personal life of people out of here.  stra Traffic Value: $285.59089 Greece 2 like this post 1 people 17/09/2016 15:37 "And learn how to separate professional and personal life of people. I will delete every single post that is not MTV related or is just saying BS. Different opinions of course are accepted but do it with respect and leave personal life of people out of here." +100000 That is of utmost importance. You should delete these posts. If you were the one who deleted mine, you were absolutely right. stark100 Traffic Value: $729.96203 Hungary 6 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 15:39 Well the poker is a bad example. It has a bunch of bug, you can't play at multiple tables etc. I know i have been playing for a while 50 -100k hands per month. If it had a perfect software it would be a big revenue maker on a standalone site. vecors Traffic Value: $2,173.146 Portugal 3 like this post 2 people 17/09/2016 16:34 roidz It`s not a question of saying "bad things". It`s the way people do it. Not agreeing with some things is not the same as calling people thieves or stupid.  We wouldn`t be here if the team hasn`t pursued what they thought was best for all. Not just for one person as many of you got used to it. bozof Traffic Value: $29,464.72207 Slovenia 19 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 16:35 @ vecors I kinda disagree with everthing you said about poker. The problem is not that people are not playing it. It is kinda abvious that nearly all the people here to invest and make money. we are not here to gamble. I know poker can generate a lot of money, but I personally do not even know to play <- "read between the lines" So we made a poker, how did we value it ? With adding it between other games? You need few seconds to find it  first, of course if you know what are you looking for! Why would FBG not build a stand-alone poker site, use some cash to advertise it? MTV do not have active gambling crowd it has mostly active investment crowd. You can make many games like Coin-Flip FBG wants to make, but MTV crowd will not touch it. We have so many products, but we are not hitting the crowd. dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 4 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 16:39 I only was able to read about half of that before it turned to TLDR Please tell me that we won't be taking out the old coin flip if we add this new one. The old one works and should stand along side at least as coin flip classic. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Plus people might quit playing out of spite if you take 'their' favorite game away since we don't know how the crowd will react, the two should work along side each other. If coin flip participation disappears in favor of the new one, then maybe think about taking it out Things I like: -An app version that shows ads to another marketplace and draw in members from another marketplace. -a pathway back to PV/MTV -Competition that will make people return / keep active -simplicity so that anyone can play and play in filler time vecors Traffic Value: $2,173.146 Portugal 2 like this post 2 people 17/09/2016 16:43 bozof I mentioned Poker because a LOT of people requested it over and over. and no one is playing it. So why they kept pushing it to be released? akkydude92 Traffic Value: $4,684.00091 Ireland 3 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 16:44 In my opinion this game isnt a bad idea but it would need some work. Not something that is really urgent. I feel the same thing is happening as others. The game wont get a lot of attention. Games shouldnt be the focus. I had hope for the exchanger but it being hacked was really unfortunate and hurt it a lot.  Tbh I'm really glad I sold some rps a few weeks ago. I kinda wish I sold more. I still have faith that this place will shine again but from the looks of things its still further off than I'd hoped. I'm just gonna sit out and watch for the time being. vecors Traffic Value: $2,173.146 Portugal 6 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 16:46 dguy The old coin flip will remain there. We are just creating anew STANDALONE product. Meaning, we will create a freemium coin flip on a different page/app to be used by everybody, not only mtv members. The revenues generated will contribute to MTV results. It`s a new product create in sucession of a very successful simple one just available for MTV/PV members. MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 72 like this post 2 people 17/09/2016 17:04 I am shocked. I am at a point that it's even hard to deal with these kind of things in a professional way. Don't even dare to come up to me and tell me to work harder. Don't even dare to flame me personally and make my personal life a part of this forum. Don't even dare to call us stupid and thieves. You should feel utterly ashamed. -- NOONE of you read those specs, that's a fact by now. The comments i've seen in this topic are absolutely ridiculous. Comments like "we don't want to gamble" or "It will just be money redivided through another game" obviously did not read the first post nor my explanation after that. Still people are just mindlessly liking every single post that bashes the management. Can I please remind you of a number of facts? -We presented you over and over with tools to market our platform, noone stepped up. -We've (Slosumo and I) put in over a 100 hours/week for over 15 months now -I haven't taken a salary for 10 months and lost my entire capital that I built in the 3 years before that just so I could focus on mtv -Your negativity kills the business -The current negativity is artificial and is created by a number of big fishes who are making trading profits on the market. We didn't bother to do anything about it for over a week as we enjoy having a fluctuating market/low RP price as we will be buying back the company at a very low price once we get to a point of legalization which will result in a huge jolt of activity and capital. Noone can ever tell me that I haven't spent a full day on non-mtv-related things. I've worked EVERY single day for 15 months straight. Every day. If everyone would chip in (Like you're supposed to do, as we're supposed to be a team) we wouldn't be in this position and I wouldn't have to work for another business just to get by. The reason I work for Lyoness is because I am at a point that I either have to take my salary from MTV, earn it elsewhere or i'll be absolutely broke. If you think it's a problem that i'm spending 2 hours/day on Lyoness, then perhaps you should step up and promote our platform that we've given you millions of incentives and tools for and I wouldn't have to. Noone can tell me that the legalization process is a hoax. I have never told lies here. I don't bull**** people. I am 100% honest, hard working and pure hearted. -- I'll explain it once more and Slosumo and mods will show up very soon to do their part as well. Coinflip Evolved is a freemium game. That means that there is absolutely no gambling in here and you can play the game for FREE. We will have offerwalls, rewarded video's, in game purchases, banners and in the future perhaps more methods to earn from this. This will be a standalone game, the BAP rewards are just a temporary bonus to get the paidverts players to play and spread it. In the future we will build an app, which will result in even more income as mobile video ads get paid a lot more. The top freemium games are making revenues of around $60-100m/month. Our casino games are earning us much less and require licensing. In the past 9 months we've been working on a project which we haven't told you about, which I mentioned a few weeks ago that I would tell you about at a later point in time as I had to make a certain deal. I will not give that news today as it's a waste in a topic like this that turned so nasty. But i'll tell you that we've gained A LOT of experience and we'll build an amazing freemium game. Coupled with a huge upgrade for shootout champs which will come soon and the project that i'll post about in a few days we'll be in a totally different position. -- I've told you so many times not to underestimate our team. All we ask for is your support and for you to market the platform every now and then. The time you spend writing a negative post here which kills your odds at making a profit could've been spent on writing a positive one about MTV elsewhere. Why destroy a project that you invested in? Why do you try to destroy something that has a lot of potential to recoup you your money and more while 10s of thousands of hyips that burned you are no longer here and never will? It just doesn't make sense, we are and have always been in this together. Slosumo and I stepped up to HELP you, but we will not deal with such disrespectful comments and lies, we deserve a FAR better treatment. killa-007 Traffic Value: $11,038.09657 Slovenia 8 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 17:12 bozof idea is good, to put poker on standalone website, and as far as I know hosting one website is not that expensive. Than you just have to hit the right crowd, not mtv crowd but gambler crowd, if ofc poker is good made so "professional" poker player will consider playing it. But it must be bug free and all. I dont play poker, i dont even know exactly how to play it and while all wrote they would play it I hoped it would bring some good revenues. (thought its true that there are not many player online on mtv, and this means less player and if you cant find room fast its pointless to play if you have to play 5 hours for room gets filled(i am just guessing the time, i have never played it). Actually I dont play any games here, maybe I played for 1$ or 10 on mtv(dont remeber), and for some BAP when i knew there would be swap and i could get bap way overpriced with market. But even that small amounts. I understand you will loose money with gambling almost sure and for that small % I am not risking it. And I dont have money to toss away, I am here to get money not to give away, and most of people is/was here for same reason.  Games are good, just sell it to right people, get standalone website, export games, and market it to gambles not mtv users and you can have way better results. stark100 Traffic Value: $729.96203 Hungary 19 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 17:14 Now that's how a true leader should speak! There is passion and faith in this comment, very encouraging. Nice one Marc! And some news that makes me excited again. newguy1 Traffic Value: $17,897.90531 United States 4 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 17:18 Cash outs are done on weekends too?    Great post by Marc. After I pay my insurance and tax bill, I hope you guys have the RP price this low still! hahaha. To be continued... killa-007 Traffic Value: $11,038.09657 Slovenia 1 like this post 2 people 17/09/2016 17:22 So you wont think I only criticize , here is maybe one idea for money. Younger generation probablly heard of dota. This game is very well known and many people play it. I saw a website that where you can play a game and bet 10$ that you will win, if you lose a game you lose 10$, else you win 10$. There is a mode 1v1 on mid and people play it. Probablly you could even bet for 5v5 game (this is done by players, not spectators). Than there are professional games where spectators would be which team professional team would win. You could only make it for big tournaments for every game. Than you could make platform for trading items, there are in many games items that are traded even for money. You could make that and with every think you could take small fee. Or make game like travian like bozof said, not same but smth familiar, people were buying that gold packages for real money like crazy when I tried this game. You can do products, I know you can. Just give it to right crowd and you will win. Though I like that Robot idea rajaconsult Traffic Value: $11,069.20771 Germany 11 like this post 1 people 17/09/2016 17:39 Dear Marc, you are shocked. OK, I also when I read the first post this morning. I believe that this will not work. And when I read the other posts, there are many users that are in my opinion. But let's talk about the project: What is your calculation? What about costs for the project until it is completed? What are the calculated revenues and where they come from? Please specify it in more detail. How many programming hours are needed? How long does it take to breakeven is reached? How many external users you reckon? How will you promote the program? What will it cost this advertising? These are the questions for which we want answers. And these questions are not directed against you and the team, they are for the crowd. I'm sure you have thought about these questions. But why you do not share it with us? Some reaction of the users would certainly have been different if you had informed us about the expected results. vecors Traffic Value: $2,173.146 Portugal 2 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 17:40 killa-007  you are suggesting EXACTLY what is proposed - buy items within the game. That`s the definition of a freemium game! dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 4 like this post 0 people 17/09/2016 17:41 OK Marc, That was simpler and a lot easier to understand before my brain turned to mush Maybe put an executive summary on your long posts for those of us with little processing power slosumo - Administrator Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia 56 like this post 1 people 17/09/2016 17:53 For some reason, I again get the feeling, that most of you seem to consider the game idea Marc posted as "the only thing that will be worked on for months and take all of our programmers' attention". Which it absolutely is not - it is merely one of the projects to be worked on by one programmer, and the specs for which have been more or less concluded on first, after thorough research/brainstorm. Which is the reason why he has posted it. It is a relatively quick build with various venues of potential and most of you seem to have completely missed the point of it. Perhaps the fault of that lies on us as we gave you the "first full specs", and not just the general idea and explanation of potential and reasoning behind it. However I would like to elaborate more on that in a follow-up post, because there is a bigger issue here that needs attention first. I really hope that the following words none of you takes the wrong way, because you (the crowd), is what has been my main motivation in the past two years to do my utmost to help upkeep and realize the potential of what this crowd project has and go beyond every pay, time or commitment I was tasked with, no matter the challenges and shitstorms (excuse the language) we were/are faced with. It is because of YOU guys and making sure we can keep the project in the right direction why I have also often given Marc a hard time about many things/decisions, to ensure that despite how tough the decisions he had to make might have been, he was still taking them in accordance with what is the best for majority of the crowd and future continuation of the project. So consider this a wake-up call, as I sincerely believe the main strength of this business is every single one of you - the crowd! And as I believe today has shown, unfortunately also one of the weaknesses. It is really surprising, that unfortunately so many of you seem to completely neglect that when you are posting on this forum, with non-constructive criticism, demeaning comments and often also missing the points of many admin posts, that you are doing yourself and this project a disservice. Or even worse, doing it out of pure crowd-manipulation attempts, to get the markets moving in your favorable direction, and many members blindly following the "negative hype". Or just out of personal gratification. Or not caring at all what you are posting or how it is affecting the business and with it every single one of your co-members. Please think about that for a second! What is more, it pains me to see some of the comments that have been posted about Marc, his lack of dedication for the business, self-interests and other foolish comments. He has been putting more of his extra time, energy and dedication into this business than anyone else has - yes including me, and that's hard to beat Not to mention the risks he has taken and still is taking by taking head of such a company, and the thousands of voices and opinions he always needs to take into account to make decisions that will not be able to please every single one of them. So please, for a second, stop and consider that any ideas/projects he has decided to work on have actual backing behind them and that there is probably several reasons why in the end he has decided to take on a specific project, instead of 10s of others the crowd has suggested at various times. There are so many variables involved that Marc has insight into, that I know it is sometimes hard to make a good judgment of a decision he makes as a "regular member", but that is where the trust part comes in and why there is a person in charge - to be able to make such a decision. Marc's given up so much to be able to focus on MTV, including salaries - so drop the smartass comments when he works for a few hours on something of his other personal projects that help him get by without that salary, and moreover, also help him grow and learn skills, that will ultimately also help him in leading MTV. I would sincerely like to appeal to every single one of you, that you start considering how YOU act and post on the forum, because Marc is not the only face of this company, YOU are as well. YOUR actions determine how quickly this project can progress and what it can become. Even as individuals YOU can make so much for the company. There can be great products built, but if YOU will not think about your actions and how they can potentially undermine (OR HELP IMPROVE) things, there is not much Marc or any of the staff can do on their own. YOU are the fuel that drives this engine and what can help it grow in every aspect. And the more you will do that, the more it help motivate the staff to do their utmost to "do your bidding". As one of the biggest & earliest supporters myself, when I still had no position in the company whatsoever, it is really mind-boggling to me that so many of you still unfortunately do not fully realize the potential addition YOU are to the company, its success, and what most of you are ultimately aiming for - how much money it can help you make. Please, next time before you comment complain or generally talk negatively, think of how YOU can help make a difference for the better and ACT on it. That's the main thing I fell in love with this project and what I believe has the potential competitive edge before any other - the crowd and how it can be the driving force. We are always open for suggestions, ideas and constructive criticism, but blatant negativity or demeaning comments are not something we can endorse. We do our best to make decisions that will benefit everyone and we give it our everything to make sure we plow towards them. So stop undermining and instead start working on contributing to the company and its success in a positive way. You have all the tools available and every little thing you can help with is more than enough! killa-007 Traffic Value: $11,038.09657 Slovenia 7 like this post 2 people 17/09/2016 18:00 yeah but I meant games like dota , cs go, lol and there are many others. nvm : I know we will get new platform and all sometime but what if you open like some kind of experimental plan. You write 10 project that you have in mind , and you make a vote for people to which they want to first develop. You give 1$ price per vote. After voting is over you have a project that you should make asap and people that voted will fund it. After voting is done you give 1 week to fund it. So after this project is done and starts making revenues, all revenues goes to people that funded the project till their funding is payed back and you can give on top of that some extra 10,20, 30% whatever is ur call. So you actually get paid for development and after you paid back all users, results go to mtv website. How about that?  Or how about we make website like Zarfund, and admin would be MTV, and revenues would go right here? Make a goood chain of promoters, get someone like brainy at top lvl and see the money coming in haha  As long as you refer website will live. And lets see if we can get to 100k active members

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