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stobb Traffic Value: $159.22316 India 1 like this post 5 people 23/01/2017 03:45 look guys i believe we need money now we mean whole mtv company and users we can get that from matrix it's totally on you , you will join or not , it's totally on you you deposit or not so i am going to make a team you people think what will be best for you if portfolio get 1500 btc from this product what's bad in it 1500 btc 1 btc if we assume 1000$ we we will genrate 1.5m profit it will change companies total financial structure again i have to say matrix totally goes on your choice deposit or not totally your decision siddartha149 Traffic Value: $683.06885 India 5 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 04:25 I agree with the first part of totoer008's post. That make this matrix separate from MTV. Just appoint some unknown face as admin, show some unrealistic stats after launch, and you are good to go. Although it is a dishonest practice, but then a matrix is itself a dishonest scheme. Building dreams on the shattered dreams of your own referrals. And if you are associating it with MTV, then I guess a voting should be taken first. Marc has always given preference to crowd's voice and I hope this time also he will do the same. orlan12fish - Administrator Traffic Value: $5,500.61933 Guatemala 0 like this post 2 people 23/01/2017 04:50 Remember that if this turns well.. we would be having a big/profitable external site, and I'm pretty sure if that's the case then we all would agree that the site is linked as much as possible to MyTrafficValue rehmaan Traffic Value: $3,924.80401 India 0 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 04:56 finding ref is not possible for me, but if someone from here forum or admin is ready to take me in their team then i can put my $$ in matrix roidz Traffic Value: $24,334.30701 Italy 22 like this post 1 people 23/01/2017 07:27 the point is not if matrix can generate profit, obviously it will. the point is that some people will lose money ( and this is sure, this is how the matrix works), and when people lose money, they are not happy, and obviously they say that mtv sc@m them. If this matrix is under mtv, mtv stole their money. it's 1+1 totoer008 Traffic Value: $1,804.70567 France 2 like this post 1 people 23/01/2017 07:48 It is why we make it hidden, so it is not associated with us. I mean almost all compagnies made some shady scheme. Apple stole from Xeros, Microsoft from Apple, Compagnies hide there money (Google and Apple) and look their personal morality hasn't moved from a iota. Nobody gives a sh*t that Apple evades money (I talk from a person perspective not EU) and this is clearly not right. I think the best option is to warn people on our matrix website that loosing is an option. If the person agrees to join it is his own fault, like in a Casino. jpla1991 Traffic Value: $773.5176 Portugal 2 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 08:16 @totoer008 So not only you want MTV to be dishonest and you will also think it would get away with it? If Marc followed your idea, then he would have to say that he built a Matrix to justify the money that is going in the results (remember that MTV's finances are almost full transparent)? Or do you think that what goes to say in this forum doesn't get spread to others? You really think that Marc saying that he would fool some people in here would go unnoticed? Get real, man. If this goes forward it will be legit and as honest as possible, because it will have the MTV stamp on it, and that, on the online business, already means a lot thanks to the immense work and dedication of the current staff. Ar1f11 Traffic Value: $335.98079 Bangladesh 17 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 08:18 As this is about the reputation of FBG, I think I have a solution. When we won’t get any more donator or we will close the website after some months, we can announce for a week before closing MyMatrix (MM) that we will send them a token to the email of them who will not have received a single referral and we will offer them some service of our company for that token. I personally recommend that we can give them some ad credit in a non-biddable advertising campaign. As most of them will be investors, they will surely have something to advertise. We will give them a time between a week to a month to use that token through our support. The process can be like after verifying their token, we will add 1$ to their account which they won’t be able to cashout and they will use that money to buy their preferable ad campaign and reply to their support ticket. Then the support will add the rest of the credit to that campaign. If it is not possible to give 0.027btc worth of advertising, we can give them 60-70% worth of advertising. Even a 40-50% will make many of them happy because no other Matrix will give them anything. Every investor knows that how matrix works but still we will give them something to be happy. The Administrations can think about a suitable percentage. The sorry email will show the seriousness of our business to them and we can also get some potential advertiser through this offer. We can also think about this offer as a promotion. If I am not missing something, then it can turn into a reputation gaining project from a reputation losing project and it will be a good project for FBG's financial condition. Feel free to agree or disagree. Every opinion are welcomed. druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 0 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 08:23 I'm not sure if it's worth ~$25 but the donation is going to get you something upfront, whether you get someone under you or not: Marc posted earlier in this thread: "By donating to your up line you will get some ad credits, which you can use for a log in spot, this will attract advertisers as well." MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 24 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 11:31 @Ar1f11: It's funny that you mention such a thing as that is exactly what we have been discussing yesterday. Like I reported yesterday, (but let me further elaborate on it) when people upgrade in the matrix they receive ad credits. We assign credits to the upgrade levels, so when they upgrade to that level, they get the credits. It works on subscriptions too, so they get more credits with every subsequent payment in the same level. There are 3 kinds of credits: text ads, banner ads and login ads. Text and Login ads are 1 credit for 1 impression/view. The banner ads can have a different credit cost assigned according to the placement and size. Ad credits and placement are configurable. -- This would mean that we can give them as much ad credits as we want and actually come up with a package that would be worth the 0.027 btc as is (Even though we're not the receivers of the bitcoins in 95%+ of the cases). However.. We could come up with something that is more of a "mtv-thing" to do, which would be to compensate who ever doesn't profit at the end of the month (Only applies to the 0.027 btc upgrade) by giving them an additional product/service. For example: -Advertising on Paidverts (bulk ads excluded) -Upgrades/Coins on CoinFlip Evolved This would mean that who ever buys an upgrade already gets a product, but as we know that they can't profit all we could give them an additional product so they feel better compensated. Even though 2016 has shown us differently, I still believe that honesty and perseverance pay off, this idea would fit in that pattern. This would mean that those people come to visit Paidverts/our freemium and if they like it, it might turn them into a returning customer/player. Now all of this obviously costs money AND it would extend our ETA.. We'd have to keep in mind the following: -We'd have to build a new feature in Paidverts that allows the support to give people a certain package of ad credits for free, or we could simply give users banner impressions worth around $20. It's the cheapest option for us and it would save programming time and we're not looking to actually give away an additional 0.027 BTC worth of advertising ON TOP of the advertising they got on MyMatrix.io -We'd spend more time and money on support processing all of the requests once a month. Luckily we have 3 new people starting soon who are from Venezuela and therefore a lot cheaper/hour, so it wouldn't result in THAT much more costs. -We'd have to change the back office a bit so it shows people that there's this additional bonus that they can claim if they don't make a profit on their level 1 upgrade -We'd have to add some text in the back office that makes it clear to people that in order to claim their additional bonus they should make a Paidverts account and address their issue to the Paidverts-support -We'd have to change the code a bit so we can easily determine who is indeed in loss, this would prevent abuse -We'd have to come up with a front/home page that shows people that this is a matrix with a back up plan All of this would most definitely add ~2 weeks to the ETA. But we're totally willing to do it. And I'd personally sleep better at night. -- Please let us know what you think. Like/Disagree with this post to show your opinion. It will not determine the outcome of the result as that would stimulate people to tell their friends to pick their preferred option, it will however serve as a guideline of the overall opinion of the crowd. Please be respectful when addressing any potential concerns. totoer008 Traffic Value: $1,804.70567 France 0 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 11:57 @jpla1991 Yeah right transparency. It is really a big word because it is a front really for me. Don't get me wrong we are more transparent then most compagnies but, we never know for sure how much the website makes because our profits aren't clearly written. Take for exemple our casinos websites, I read from time to time that we have to cover some losses or whatever. Transparency is a clear report of gains and losses not just words. Anyway this my two cents about transparency.  What about reputation it is super easy. Who is going to know that "Matrixgenericname" is going to be MTV's one ? Marc can just annonce it won't be made and make one in secret through a front compagnies. I am not in favor of those kind of actions but I get the deal and in world where money is key we need some quick now right now. Like when Microsoft donated millions to Apple, wasn't of pure kindness but to have a competitor and to stopped being harassed by the anti-monopoly agency (can't remember the word).  I see it like this Casino-loss in the long term/a possible win same goes with matrix, but here it is problem. Bullsh*t. stobb Traffic Value: $159.22316 India 0 like this post 3 people 23/01/2017 12:41 i am with you marc from the first till now and in future will be, over 80 people waiting to see the site , there are 90% online matrix earner don't know mtv they will get in touch with mtv and with it's product by this matrix we will get that crowd , and some people saying that lowest members and and who can't promote will lose i have to tell them only one thing matrix is all about marketing if you are loser stay out from this matrix bcz champions are here to take the ground and champions don't care about losers  Ar1f11 Traffic Value: $335.98079 Bangladesh 0 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 12:48 @Marc Now I have nothing to say after reading your post. I have understand the point. I am leaving this to the Administrations. I believe and hope that what will come will be a success and will be good for FBG. DanTheMan Traffic Value: $4,069.99578 Germany 11 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 14:03 If you really want to go through with this matrix, I want it to be made clear for everyone who signs up what they're getting themselves involved with.  Maybe have people read through a page that explains the whole system in detail which they have to read before they can complete their sign-up. If they decide to just scroll through without reading, put down their checkmark that they read and agreed, then those people really have nobody to blame but themselves. Maybe put 'Only invest what you can afford to lose' in bigger letters at the end of it, just so people at least get that message without fail.  I just want a site that is upfront and honest with their members and makes them perfectly clear, that they are essentially playing a (money)game in which they can easily lose their money, if they play badly. I don't want this to be some make-believe bs that promises people unsustainable returns with no effort like so many ponzis do. And I like the idea of compensating losers in some way and free advertising on paidverts is probably the easiest one to implement. At the end of the day you will still have people screaming sc@m when the system inevitably crumbles, but we can at least try to warn people as good as we can before they put their money down to soften the blow of the outcry.  I personally don't like to promote these kinda things, but if you show me that this matrix wants to be honest to it's members, I might consider it. pankaj45 Traffic Value: $100.39598 India 0 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 14:15 I Like the concept but my concern is starting price of the matrix.It should be less to bring more people. MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 10 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 14:35 Actually I think it's best to keep the upgrade price as is. It would result in more people with "value" on the website, instead of 200k+ ptc users who would not buy into the website at all but seriously add to the server costs. With Paidverts it's different as we have a lot of tools that earn us money from every single user on the platform, MyMatrix will be have a lot less to offer to earn from free traffic. The more people with value you have, the more valuable your advertising is, especially as this is a bitcoin-only product. (Meaning that it's more targeted) If you would have lower upgrade prices, the rewards would also be a lot smaller, this would deter any big promoters. There is another platform out there which has even higher upgrade prices but they're the most successful matrix out there, with over 200.000 active users. About 70% of their traffic is from Africa, so I don't think our buy in price is all that high. rtrplay Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden 2 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 15:36  users that fail in CFE think it's a "s*c" and say this in chat, they do not know it's fun game only for BAP, everywhere they destroy and cry instead of learning how hard is it to read... i'm logged in but system says "pen Sans">Only logged users can use chat" hrjustinptc - Forum moderator Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States 2 like this post 1 people 23/01/2017 16:05 I just had a random idea I am not sure if it is good or bad. What if you made the matrix company forced then reset it quarterly. Then people would always have a decent chance to gain a good position every 90 days. And it would contribute to MTV overall. This is kinda just thinking upon what mriley posted.  siddartha149 Traffic Value: $683.06885 India 3 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 17:03 Hmmm...compensating members with ad credits does make it less evil scheme. I am still not gonna invest it in or advertise it to anyone whom I call friend or even acquaintance. But I would surely like to join as an advertiser, because the target audience is perfect,i.e. big risk takers. Would it be possible to join only for advertising purpose, or is it necessary to be involved in the web? Also I really want to see for how long this matrix can float on hype and how would people react when it ends. It would be interesting to see their opinions. Go ahead Marc. A new experiment awaits!! casio8978 - Forum moderator Traffic Value: $14,531.83197 Slovenia 2 like this post 0 people 23/01/2017 17:08 there will be an option to buy banners/login ads i belive

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