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fraser
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09/05/2023 01:32
I want to explain to you why I had it wrong about MTV / Paidverts and why I think you do too.

I looked at it as a way to make money (directly) and not a way to make money (indirectly). Let me explain what I mean and show you how to do the same.

There are really 2 main ways (if we ignore the casino games) to make make money directly.

1. Clicking ads
2. RP price appreciation

No.1 you'll be here for the rest of your life trying and No.2 I've not given up hope completely but it's by no means certain.

So let me tell you the indirect way.

Today, you can purchase RPs for $0.0006 and sell them for BAPs at 7 BAPs per RP (without any waiting for the market and other people's bids). This is obviously dynamic, but that is true right now.

Let's say you have $10

You buy $10 worth of RPs. You get 16,666 RPs

You sell 16,666 RPs for BAPs you get 116,666 BAPs (minus the tax 5833 BAPs) so total 110,833 BAPs.

Each BAP is worth $0.0005 in clickable adverts. So your 110,833 BAPs are now worth $55.42.

Yes, that's right. You've just turned $10 into $55.42 with 10 seconds of "work".

So, right now you're thinking...but those BAPs are "worthless" the adverts are low value and it'll take you forever to see any of that money back. This is true, and it's why you need to build a sizeable BAP position, to get the higher value ads.

However, once you do that, you can spend all of the money you make from clicking ads on buying ads (NOT TRYING TO GET YOUR MONEY OUT).

What matters is having something worthwhile to advertise and a decent affiliate programme. There are millions out there and you can do your own work trying to work out which one(s) is right for you. You then actually contribute money into MTV but earn your money elsewhere.

Once you've built your BAP position and want to spend your ad click money on ads yourself, Bulk Ads will cost you $1 you can then get 20,000 125x125 ads for $0.50.

So for $1.50 you get 20,000 potential referrals to whatever you choose. 1 decent referral out of these 20,000 will more than pay back what you spent.

MTV gets stronger (and RP value actually would increase), you add to their earnings rather than take away and you earn elsewhere. Win-Win.

This is not theoretical. This is what I am doing and it works. I don't intend to take any money out of MTV. If anything I intend to spend more.

Does it take some work? Yes.

Does it require you to find a good thing to advertise? Yes.

Does it pay? Yes.

Up to you if you're willing to put the effort in.

I was wrong about how to make money from MTV. It's possible, it's just not obvious.

kejdi
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09/05/2023 06:24
By following this strategy I immediately moved up to group 9 but for the moment not investing more here,I am staking some coins and getting rewards in crypto now,however this is a perfect explanation of how to reach higher groups in a very short amount of time,of course if you have the budget to do so.
richiem
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10/05/2023 05:45
Do share some of the affiliate products you are having success with promoting at Paidverts/PTCshare.
fraser
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10/05/2023 23:39
Hi Richie

You can go to the Royalty Position User Control Panel and see all of the ads that I run (all of the ads that anyone runs).  Anyone with 1000 RPs can see this information, and I'd highly recommend anyone wanting to actually work out how to get the benefit of MTV do this.

I've used this to try to work out the intentions of other users in the marketplace and usually you can.  Once you do, you can use this information to your advantage.

Go to the last page of my ads and you'll see exactly what I'm doing just now wink

But, to summarize.  I run a Bitcoin education website.  That website has many different ways for people to earn Bitcoin (most with zero cost/risk to the individual).  Some of the services I recommend have an affiliate programme some don't.  So I earn via that.

I don't advertise any scams.  First and foremost I want people to learn about Bitcoin.  What I earn beyond that is just a bonus.
dtworker
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12/05/2023 14:07
Hi fraser,

Could you please describe exactly how to do this part:"You sell 16,666 RPs for BAPs you get 116,666 BAPs (minus the tax 5833 BAPs) so total 110,833 BAPs."?


I have already bought RPs for the first time in my life as you told in your post, but have some trouble to sell them for BAPs. 


So I would kindly ask you to tell some kind of step-by-step method to do so. Thanks.
fraser
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13/05/2023 00:16
Hi dtworker

Sure. No problem.

Click "Invest"
Click Royalty Positions "Invest Now"
That takes you to the Marketplace
Scroll down to where it says "Royalty Positions Listed for Sale for BAP"
Click "Sell your RP for BAP"
Enter the number of RPs you wish to sell in the "Amount to Sell" box
Enter your sale price in "Sale Price (BAP)"

(Looking the market right now, I'd suggest 7)

Click "Sell"

Go back to the Marketplace and you'll see your sell order listed.  The price you list at will determine how quickly your order will be filled (by someone else who wants to sell their BAP to you).

Hope that helps.  grin

(Once the sale goes through, you see that you no longer have the RPs on MTV, but you will now have BAPs on Paidverts.  The more BAPs you have the larger the value of ads you will receive).

I would then suggest going in to the forum on Paidverts, clicking "News and Information" and the top "Daily Ad Issue" post, and you'll see exactly the value of the ads you can expect based on your BAP Group.
dtworker
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13/05/2023 09:23
Hi fraser,

thanks for your detailed and nice answer, you made my day! grin

Somehow I thought that too, it's obvious, right? 

The most useful thing at this moment (I didn't think about it) is to sell my RP at the price of 7 BAP! Then I could expect that exact amount of BAP you told us about. 

Also it is now obvious to me that I need to wait for someone to buy my RPs even if I'm at 1st place or 2nd place to sell. So it cannot happen instantly, right?

Even so, it's a great thing, yes, I was wrong about PV and MTV too! smile
dtworker
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13/05/2023 12:00
Royalty Positions: sold 16667 for 110835 BAPs



DID IT! FINALLY!!! grincool

Thanks a lot my friend!!! smile
richiem
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15/05/2023 02:46
I think those who make PV/Ptcshare sustainable should be recognized/rewarded in some way.

Maybe those who have purchased $100 in ads and have 50% withdrawn-purchased ratio should be recognized. Maybe give them a badge. And have access to a private forum where they can talk to each other.
druth8x
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18/05/2023 09:41
I hesitate to rain on y'alls parade cause what was said is possible.

I just want to point out that to be a BAP holder, one needs to find time EVERY WEEK DAY within 18hrs after those ads are sent.

Having a job and needing to sleep for basically those whole 18hrs based on when they showed up in my account became too much for me and I started missing them. Going to work slightly late/interrupting my sleep (have to sign in and do ads (so no, I'm not paying attention to the ads, sorry, it's a chore).

You can also only have so much BAP, so at some point, now what with all that excess?


AND, yes, the biggest KEY to all of this is to have something else to advertise that will get conversions. Which requires you to have many somethings and new things and/or a fresh crop of new ad viewers. Lots of work involved in finding something worth it (esp not HYIP/MLM or pennies) and new somethings.
fraser
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19/05/2023 00:29
So buy the ad filter.

It costs $10, lasts forever and you can move it up and down as many times as you like.

I've set the ad filter at a level where I generally get 3 ads per week day.  Usually they are 5 seconds long.  So the "chore" for me is being able to find 15 seconds at some point during the day.  Not a big ask.

If that's too much to ask, then I can't help you.
dtworker
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20/05/2023 19:22
Hi fraser, 

do you think the super user upgrade (mini and mega) could bring us more valuable ads? 

So far my experience was not so profitable using both of them, now I am not even sure what purpose they have if they don't deliver ads? 

Mini upgrade expired long ago, but the mega upgrade just ended today, it has not delivered the valuable ads.

So I was wondering that, well anyways I think in general it is better then the 1-2 month membership. 

What do you think about all of that?
fraser
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22/05/2023 01:50
I'm not a fan of mini/mega.  

Someone did a review of them a while ago and found them not to be worthwhile.  Not sure who it was.

They too would become a better idea if more people started buying ads.  That's what makes the whole business (and the individual) stronger.

I'd also like to see the tax on inactive accounts increased.  That's currently a 203,776,816 BAP (or $101,888) anchor weighing down the business.
richiem
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22/05/2023 05:12
A little off-topic here, but I think we can use an in-house ad rotator service which can give fresh eyes to our ads. (I'm not really buying ads for the moment, but advertisers might find that useful.) Which will also give the members a little something to do aside from viewing ads.

That, and a 3-month or 2-month rolling Activity Points in place of the piling-up Achievement Points, would be my suggestion for the sites.

But for us right now, we just need to keep on buying ads and make money somewhere else to keep the system alive.
Vixthra
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22/05/2023 14:45
druth8x made research on mini & mega, who else.

As for anything else, tax on inactive accounts is irrelevant, because they are inactive. You might as well instantly erase the balance and it wouldn't make a difference.

And the sad part of truth is in any case that once such a big system with alike userbase gets down to 0.30-0.40 or however much daily ad issues for top groups it's too far gone to do anything about it.

Flex your math skills or ideas as much as you want, it won't make a difference.
dtworker
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22/05/2023 20:16
Hi Vixthra,

so it doesn't matter the bap group at all? For the users who have millions of baps, they honestly can't do anything to get rid of them completely?
Vixthra
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22/05/2023 20:29
Not exactly sure what you meant here, but ads aren't issued to inactives so it doesn't matter.

For getting (them) out you can use the market as fraser said and get a fraction of your funds out, in time, maybe. But, if you love your life, please get something more worthwhile to do than making tossing RPs and BAPs around on the market a habit.

I get why after so many years some are still "enthusiastic" about it, but I think the dead horse has been beaten up enough already.
dtworker
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23/05/2023 05:56
I meant is it possible to still use all the bap by watching ads? So if we have millions of bap that means we will never be able to use them completely by watching ads, right? They won't get consumed right?
Vixthra
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23/05/2023 17:42
It is in no way possible, as you get lower ad issues as you descend down the BAP groups.

Even if you had only 1mil BAP and get a 0,40$ (800 BAP) ad issue (which I had at 6mil BAP on PtcShare) every day, without it getting lower in lower BAP groups, it would take you more than 3 years to deplete - and that is without excluding weekends.
dtworker
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23/05/2023 19:23
Hi Vixthra, 

thanks a lot my friend, you nailed it.

Yes, if this thing doesn't work like it used to then there is no point in buying BAP if we don't want to advertise our business. Even one year ago I've got 3$ ads and thought my BAP are consumed too slowly.

OK, if we include MTV we could buy RP, selling it for BAP and then selling it at little higher price, this may be some good idea but it takes time.

Some better suggestion if we don't have some serious business to advertise? 
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