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casio8978 - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $14,531.83197 Slovenia
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05/02/2017 19:58
of corse its a question how many are active of those..
but what i wanted to say is that without any special advertising 20k joined..
imagine what its possible when we all spread it.. possible even with special mtv advertising budget..
lets wait few days and see it smile
bozof
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05/02/2017 20:19
I know that is not a profit, because members still may have that money on balance and cash it out. But in case if they do not and they spent it all on games, advertising, bulk ADs soon or later you will get completely same result as if you calculate it like i did it.

For example if you have difference 18.000$ and someone cash out 1000$. difference would be 17.000$. So it is not fixed amount.

If all that money or part of it would be spent on games you would have higher revenues what would make profit higher by your calculation. Not in mine because I already calculate that money right after it was deposited. I do not believe people deposit money and withdraw after that anyway.

Only difference is that my calculation shows more specifically how much money came in and how much out. It is not so much about a "profit". Liquid you are in every case because amount you have on payment processor do not change..
bozof
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05/02/2017 20:24
And a noob question grin

I can send quite a lot of traffic from random revenushares to a new fremium game. Could MTV make a profit that way. After they will be redirected to that game banners will be displayed so even if they stay on site for few secs only that would generate profit or ? Usually  that is like "junk" traffic and people do not join sites grin
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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05/02/2017 21:03
Whenever ad sense (or similar high quality publishing networks) is used on a website please avoid sending any "junk" traffic to such a site directly as it can result in decreased revenues or even a ban.

Although we will have detection in place that will NOT show banners when the game is shown within a frame (i.e. though a PTC) to prevent this, it is still not suggested to do so directly. The game does have splash pages which should be used for such purposes/"spam promotion".

So directly just traffic like that will not generate anything, but if those viewing the splash convert to players, that will come back, and use the game as anyone else, then it will naturally help raise genuine traffic/playerbase.
druth8x
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05/02/2017 21:18
First off, thanks for taking the time to explain.

"Even though the business entirely changed, the way of calculating results is still "old school".
Meaning that you can not find the 50% contribution of Bulk ad sales to the development funds on the portfolio, portfolio referral income, offerwalls, external advertising, 3% trading fees on RP's (It currently shows just 0.5%) and many, many more things."


I DID mention this, I just didn't realize that the difference was so stark, like what the results show is roughly 50% of reality/what the new platform would show.

Well, I'll be, you are not using 50%, aka ~$500-$750/day aka $15,000-$22,500/month, to give PV steady Ad Issues of $800-$1000. I think there was a time you told us you had to dig into that.

That's a huge chunk of the missing right there.

I DO appreciate the Google Spreadsheet.

Yes, there is no REAL need, esp with the Google Spreadsheet available, to overhaul the Results. The Programmers are right.

Where in the Google Spreadsheet do we get the number for how much Revenue we got aka the ideally, at least, $50-$60K OR $1,667 to $2000 / day?

Still, no answer on the FTQ being fully paid b4 ANY RP get dividends, and yet, you did buy some FTQ. On an 80/20 plan, that's fine, on a 100/0 plan, that seems a bit like insider trading, not that I begrudge you.

By Fully liquid, if worse comes to it, you have $110K (note that is ~$7K lower than the long term avg) available for a mass cashout exodus? What about the BAP debt of ~332K?
carvalho17
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05/02/2017 21:19
Could you tell me what is the rough estimation of what an average user could generate each month playing the new freemium game (just by ads)? 

- And please, a player request: don't make the ads annoying to the users. Whenever I see video ads that I can't close popping up I uninstall the game in a second!
carvalho17
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05/02/2017 21:26
- Sorry for the interruption, I know you were expecting admin's answer angel -


"By Fully liquid, if worse comes to it, you have $110K (note that is ~$7K lower than the long term avg) available for a mass cashout exodus? What about the BAP debt of ~332K?"


By fully liquid, I think that means MTV will have the money to pay $110k (when they pay) to a mass cashout exodus. The problem might be need of exchange it through the processors.


About the debt, I don't think MTV could back up that amount of money, may be a few thousands, waiting for Marc's answers as well.
bozof
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05/02/2017 21:33
Okay, i will use more "quality traffic" like click on banners etcsmile
missi
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06/02/2017 05:29
Druth. There will be no answer to those questions until we are at that stage and able to assess the best course for that time. Team are focused on other things so we can get to that point which you of all people should have gathered.

So you may ask it a million times and until we have decisions on those you will have no answer until we are definite. We have learned too many time how the crowd takes estimates and then misunderstands those as promises. We are fully working towards those goals and we are getting closer. You will get the answers when they are available. 



And the insider trading insinuation. Seriously? Knowing Marcs values that comment to me is really a little insulting. Marc has faith in what we are doing here. He has put HIS OWN money where his mouth is nothing more, nothing less. Hell if I had the liquidity I would be following in his footsteps. So no, no conspiracy to theorise over here sorry. 
dguy
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06/02/2017 06:33
Insider trading is more a problem when CEOs are selling, not when they are buying

And company officers buy and sell shares (or in this case company debt) on the public markets all the time. There is a whole trading philosophy and following devoted to watching that type of thing.

When company officers are buying you probably want to be buying too. It is a sign of extreme confidence by those that know the inner workings of the company

Because we are so transparent, it can't really be considered insider trading since there is full public disclosure
alva5763
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06/02/2017 07:47
Can nobody take a joke here? I put lol at end of insider trading comment. I have never made a negative comment about Marc. Get a life folks and a sense of humour.
siddartha149
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06/02/2017 08:04
Don't know what has happened to them. They are only catching the first few lines, and don't even bother to read the full thing or following posts. Alva already mentioned, this is a joke, after 2-3 posts, but seems that was not important to read.
alva5763
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06/02/2017 08:14
Thanks
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
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06/02/2017 10:33
They're replying to druth.
Faby1958
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06/02/2017 13:13
quoting:

Insider trading is more a problem when CEOs are selling, not when they are buying

Not exactly. it can work both ways,

Insider trading is the trading of securities based on the knowledge of relevant information that is not yet publicly known, with the aim of gaining profit or advantage in the market.
gugakip
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06/02/2017 13:16
@Faby, no one cares if a CEO buys in the real world. Selling is more of a problem, that's what they said wink
dguy
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06/02/2017 15:41
We can take a joke but the problem with these forums is someone will make an offhand comment and then someone will post a new thread creating a false crisis based on the off hand comment. It happens all the time around here so we tend to jump on these comments.

it is not against you, it is just to stomp out spot fires before they get a foothold. smile

It's crazy, it's paranoid and yes, it happens often
missi
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06/02/2017 23:12
siddartha149


I don't know what has happened. 


You missed the very first word of my post which stated who my comment was replying to, (not alva5763).

You only caught the last lines, but seems that was not important to read the first bit wink.
macpee
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09/02/2017 11:18
All these answers are TRASH, with my FTQ huge amount forcibly converted to shares of meagre amount. Like I said, all trashes and bunch of lies. MTV is nothing different from other HYIPS out there. I advise admin to look for better things doing rather than deceive people and collecting their hard earned money.
missi
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09/02/2017 11:35
macpee what did you do with your RP's? You do not seem to hold any

For the rest of your claims it seems you have been away a while. Maybe you should have a good catch up read on all the latest developments so you can see the vision and perhaps rejoin us as we are working towards success.
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