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Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 15 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 12:05 Todays fast tracks have been sent! MyTrafficValue is now accepting BitCoin: http://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/news/bitcoin_now_accepted/1.html We've installed Rayners redesign of the Super User upgrade page: http://www.paidverts.com/member/super_user.html Other than that, not a lot of news at the moment... Still pushing Carlos to wrap up the SSL. That's an unbelievable effort! ... Slosumos slots should be coming early next week (Mon-Tue-Wed) , and the Fast Traffic Ads system is also under construction. Meanwhile Paul is doing some odd jobs; but he's a little sidelined at the moment as he focuses on his thesis for uni. There'll be no daily ad issue at PV today. I'm just issuing 1million or so random ads. Then there'll be a mini daily ad issue on Sunday. And this is all in preparation / saving up for another week of good results from Monday. ---- BRAINSTORMING IDEA: I've come up with a cycler type system that we'd deliver in the form of an "ad directory". With each purchase, you get 7 or 30days in our directory, along with a whole bunch of guaranteed views to your website. And you also get 140% of the purchase value issued as BAP. PREMIUM: $1000 (30days + 2,800,000 BAP / $1400) - 250 ... creates 10*$25 ads issued to top premium listing - 50 .... creates 50*$1 ads issued at random to normal listings - 100 .... MTV portfolio - 50 .... referral commission - 50 .... creates 10*$5 ads for mega super users - 80 .... creates 40,000 * $0.002 ads (random) - 10 .... creates 10,000 * $0.001 ads (random) - 10 .... creates 1000 x $0.01 ads (random) - 400 ... invested @250% in MTV REGULAR: $20 (7 days, 56,000 BAP / $28) - 5 ..... creates 5*$1 ads issued to top normal listing(s) - 1 ..... creates 1*$1 ad issued to random premium listing - 2 ..... mtv portfolio - 1 ..... referral commission - 1 ..... creates 10 x $0.10 ads for mini super users - 1.60... creates 800 x $0.002 ads (random) - 0.20... creates 200 x $0.001 ads (random) - 0.20... creates 20 x $0.01 ads (random) - 8...... invested @ 250% Rules: - You can buy one listing per day, added to the bottom of the queue. Or. You can topup (extend) one existing listing, by purchasing it again adding 7/30days... This will effectively double up its value; whilst retaining your position in the queue. - Your guaranteed website visits will be delivered regardless. - Your listing will be removed from the directory (and you won't be elegible to receive the $1/$25 'directory ads' ) when either the timer expires; or you receive the quota of "director ads" that effectively repay you... Once your lising is removed, it can't be extended. You have to start from scratch. - When you purchase a listing, you are issued your BAP straight away. And thereby, even if the "cycler" bit doesn't pay you. The regular daily ad issues will. - Notice you earn a little less via this plan, than via Bulk Ads. This is to compensate for the theoretical faster payments you can get here over the bulk ads plan. - Any "directory ads" that recycle, recycle like normal. To any recycler pro upgrade; irrelevant of whether they have a listing or not. - Re-Investment money will be managed by a second paidverts account at MTV. And as those investments mature it will be redistributed back to PV as follows; i) 25% will create $25 ads for the top premium listings ii) 50% will create $1 ads for the top regular listings iii) 25% will contribute towards the regular daily ad issue at PV --- seeing as this plan will effectively dilute that a bit. (Seeing as when you join the cycler; even whilst you're getting paid there; you're also receiving daily ad issues based on your overall BAP) - "Directory Ads" consume BAP, and recycle at 18hours like any other ads... If you're listing is at the top of the queue, but you run out of BAP, then any ads that would have been issued to you, will be issued to the next avaialable listing in line. - The 1020 website visits ($0.001-$0.01 ads bit) will be issued instantly upon purchase. And those ads will keep recycle until they're clicked on and your visits are delivered. Thereby you should get at least 90% of all your guaranteed website visits within 48hours. And 100% within a week I expect. - And notice how all regular listings pay a small bonus to Premium Listings; but then Premium Listing purchases; also help flush out the regular listings also. Sustainability... $8 x 250% = $20 + we issue $9 worth of instant ads issued here there and everywhere (all of which consume BAP). So for every $28 worth of debt created, $29 worth of ads are delivered. Plus recycles! And this should be a good way to constantly issue random small ads across the system. As every new purchase dishes out 1000+ random ads to any old user with BAP and the corresponding Ad Filter. And the high minimum purchase price; should make this the more exclusive plan. And hopefully encourage people to invest more. In terms of framing this to e-currencies... we'll create an ad profile page like we have with Bulk Ad Campaigns; which will state the 1000+ visits we'll deliver along with the 7day directory listing as the primary purchase title. All the ad issues will happen in the background... And as a user you just get your BAP; and ads keep coming until all that BAP is consumed. ----- So, what do you think? Is it worth the effort? Will the potential speed boost; and all the random ads help PV explode? (I've not sent this to the programmers... still working on the idea) Or do you have any other ideas? ... It's real tough to balance sustainability vs excitement value. * Another idea i've got in my head, but I can't work the details out for yet.... is a real time "tycoon game" type thing. Where you basically invest/pay to play the game; then as that investment matures; it's dished out via the game... But that's super complicated, even to do simply! Anyway... I'll keep mulling over ideas. Maybe we'll stumble upon something awesome. As we've got good reach now; and confidence is high. Prime opportunity to deliver something special, and gain instant traction with it... Just a question of what!? Jo Domen97 Traffic Value: $9,354.801 Slovenia 1 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 12:09 Sounds good, anything new about support team, you still looking for help? Catt Traffic Value: $1,193.5857 Brazil 0 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 12:10 I would probably buy the $28 one... like the idea Jo! dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 4 like this post 1 people 23/08/2014 12:10 How about building an app for PV? You could leverage that into an app market ad platform hrjustinptc - Forum moderator Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States 10 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 12:59 Wow! that is an amazing idea that is for sure. I think something like this would really be a good thing to keep on the program list. For now I think it would be best to finish cheap traffic. Then slowly work on targeted ads and getting that system running smoothly. I really think that cheap traffic will be a huge seller as the active member base grows. If you think about it there is no way for an advertise to buy traffic without gaining BAP. A normal PTC site doesn't offer a return on its traffic lol. There is a market for pure advertisers that might not want to mess with the BAP side of PaidVerts. After targeting has been worked out adding a cycler system like this would be easy.  Right now with just free BAP and the Bulk Ads it is easy to monitor debt creation. Not really a huge issue adding another ad package that provides BAP. I think getting the hard work and major revenue generation ad packages built is best. Then when you do add another debt creator there is already positive revenue to counter it. This post is longer then I intended but definitely a great rough idea. The quality of traffic here will put any other traffic generation to shame.  KJGupta Traffic Value: $236.73065 India 1 like this post 3 people 23/08/2014 13:04 @Jo Hi Jo, first of all I want to say that I have filed a ticket 3 days back and I haven't got any reply yet. I am really very angry that tickets are now not replied after 3 days too. So, please reply to my ticket as early as possible and if possible please reply to my ticket NOW! And secondly I can't understand the new idea where do we have to purchase ads if that idea is implemented and what are its benefits. If possible please tell me in short what is that. Thanks and also please reply to my this post and ticket. Once again Thanks. tux000 Traffic Value: $3,785.18396 Germany 2 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 13:04 I love that $20-idea 'cause it's not cheap, but affordable. Would buy one instantly I'm still suggesting to translate both MTV and PV into other languages, so many more people would be able to use it (discussed in the news yesterday, don't know if U read it ). Same for support.. Have a nice weekend everybody getter Traffic Value: $303.22909 Belgium 0 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 13:16 I find it a good idea. Allthough I have to say that I'm very curious to see how you will work out the tycoon game idea you mentioned. I'm very interested in that idea. Some time ago I wrote down some idea for a small subsidiary site where the people which are into crypto currency could be reached. Maybe it could be something for the future? http://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/brainstorm/addictive_game_idea.html  jamespaul Traffic Value: $152,534.85777 United States 1 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 13:30 I can't wait for the 'gaming investment plan'! It would definitely make me a very regular player of the money games... and a lot of others for sure I think! Of the cycler, I agree with hrjustinptc. polo26 Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France 2 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 14:14 I agree with hrjustinptc  it now takes this focus on current options and completed or improved (cheap traffic and target ads) that has great potential, a lot of people on the Internet looking for place to advertise their site not expensive  I'm quite skeptical with this idea is a little  kind a pack  mix PV/MTV (BAP / plan250) and quite complex  by against the game "tycoon game" is really an innovation I think for the site (personally I have already spent $ 10 in these kinds of games on FB (and there is a large audience for this, I think) I know after a company has to evolve to advanced, but we must do  good choice, because the time and money it will take to develop this idea you will not get it for another more promising idea ("tycoon game  ) ok anyway I appreciate that you always think about upgrading the network  that's just my opinion webmydata Traffic Value: $20,280.94579 Germany 1 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 15:19 I like the "ad directory"-cycler-idea! Although the $1000 seems to me too high, especially for a PTC site. I know you are trying to attract high value investors - but the $1000 didn't work well for the 250% plan. Beljalex Traffic Value: $3,515.97345 Canada 2 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 17:49 I agree with hrjustinptc that states: For now I think it would be best to finish cheap traffic. Then slowly work on targeted ads and getting that system running smoothly. I really think that cheap traffic will be a huge seller as the active member base grows. If you think about it there is no way for an advertise to buy traffic without gaining BAP. A normal PTC site doesn't offer a return on its traffic lol. There is a market for pure advertisers that might not want to mess with the BAP side of PaidVerts. After targeting has been worked out adding a cycler system like this would be easy.  Right now with just free BAP and the Bulk Ads it is easy to monitor debt creation. Not really a huge issue adding another ad package that provides BAP. I think getting the hard work and major revenue generation ad packages built is best. Then when you do add another debt creator there is already positive revenue to counter it. .... The quality of traffic here will put any other traffic generation to shame.  Me now: Within these ads cyclers we would have 2 choices: $1000 or $20 (or $28). In between: nothing.  I certainly prefer targeted ads available, reviewed milestones back and more valued ads to replace cheap value ads sent to members instead of a this feature.  That's right there is a market for advertisers but for members clicking these ads should be worthy with a higher value than $0.0005. I've spent more than $200 in advertising here (to gain BAP) some of my best programs with none subscription to them. Furthermore, at least 1/3 of my ads are recycled because of their too low value.  Like hrjustinptc says, after targeting ads have been worked out adding a cycler system like this would be easy.  Translate site into other languages like Spanish, French, Italian, Russian, Indonesian, Greek, etc. would also bring in new members.  Thanks for keeping us informed and up to date. Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 14 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 18:13 I don't think we're going to prioritize this directory ads idea... It's not special / unique enough I don't think... It'll just split the demand for our existing Bulk Ads system. I'm instead going to push to the programmers to get Multiplayer Poker deployed, right after Cheap Traffic Ads. As I think we need to focus on 'service based revenues' -- not just swapping one debt for another, and continually moving money around. We need a way to generate income, and lots of it! And I think multiplayer games is the easiest 'service' we can offer right now. So we'll make a BAP poker game our priority. Then once we iron out the kinks there; we'll deploy cash versions. Domen97 Traffic Value: $9,354.801 Slovenia 1 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 18:24 @Jo  I was one of people who recommended multiplayer poker, can you tell me some details about what kind of poker and they way it will work? Will it be like "Texas Holdem Poker" and will it work in real time ? shabbagames Traffic Value: $15,936.07232 United Kingdom 4 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 18:42 @Jo I agree with your second statement, but can I ask you not to give up on the tycoon idea. It doesn't have to be done any time soon but I can see huge demand for this idea. If developed carefully it can be very rewarding for both players and MTV/PV. We can use BAPs as the game currency. That takes the debt reduction to a whole new level. (The above statement is only an idea and my opinion, feel free to disagree with it.) Shabbagames polo26 Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France 1 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 18:49 @Jo Perfect I think that the multiplayers game Poker  and cheap ads  option are more potential, that option cycler ,I think (but kept in mind your tycoon game play/cash/invest is a good idea, frankly) _________________________________________________________________________________ @Domen 97, here's what Jo had posted in a NEWS about it (multiplayers Poker) ------------------------------------- Thereafter we're going to try our first multiplayer game. It'll likely be a very simple, 1x 6 player game of Draw Poker... Once we get that working, we can start expanding; adding more tables etc. Different versions of Poker and so on... But we have no experience with building multiplayer games yet -- so the first one is a bit of an experiment! And we'll keep it small scale, so as not to destroy our servers. ----------------------------------- paidavox Traffic Value: $100.41864 Thailand 0 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 19:01 really looking forward to the tycoon game! Domen97 Traffic Value: $9,354.801 Slovenia 2 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 19:08 @polo26 Thank you  i cant wait for some of Draw Poker... I am very excited  hrjustinptc - Forum moderator Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States 0 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 19:20 I'm just curious how would multiplayer games profit PaidVerts and/or MTV/MyMoneyGames?  In multiplayer games if someone's playing against other people than the pot goes to the winner of the hand. So BAP/money is still heavily shuffled around.  How is traffic generation not a service based revenue?  Quality traffic is the best service based revenue you can do for this industry. I really don't see how games are a great service based revenue. Ad traffic sales has skyrocketed revenues far more then any of the games. The games work well with BAP on such large volumes. They are good for reducing some debt but they can also potentially create more debt if several members get lucky.  The faster BAP gets consumed by ads the quicker all members see actual money. More cash to members mean they are more willing to spend it gambling etc. The speed at which BAP is consumed dictates the daily revenue. More members will use that money to buy more advertising. All advertising even bulk ads contributes to the daily revenue.  Domen97 Traffic Value: $9,354.801 Slovenia 0 like this post 0 people 23/08/2014 19:22 @hrjustinptc Well by multiplayer game the Debt will be reduced by tax per win lets say 6 players all bet 5000 BAP now there is 30k BAP in the game winner takes all but there is 10% BAP tax so PaidVerts get's 3000 BAP and winner gets 27k BAP

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