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Gizmo
Traffic Value: $54,219.84749 United States
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12/12/2016 21:36
dguy,


 What if one of the big company offer them a job with perks and benefits way way better than mtv.... That is a giant conference with major players from major companies !  I don't know about that... Maybe MTV needs to make sure they are well paid and catered
vecors
Traffic Value: $2,173.146 Portugal
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12/12/2016 23:02
caciPakovska


did you really understood my words? Apparently not. I described exactly the opposite of a ponzi. By investing on the funding page you are financing the build of the new products. Those will generate revenues for MTV that will allow MTV to pay it`s debt. How is that a ponzi? Seriously? 

I didn`t say: Put the money on funding Page and we`ll use it to pay your investments!
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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12/12/2016 23:08
We never "bullshitted" anyone, we are actually building products.
Neither is what he said pointing to any ponzi element at all as a ponzi is simply new money repaying old money without an actual product or development.

We have built so many products that I find it truly amazing that anyone who has been here for a while still comes up with posts in which we get called a ponzi, fake, thieves or what not.

We have proven ourselves so many times already and we've proven that we're on our way to get things better, but you simply don't make a couple of millions overnight.
There's always a grind that leads up to the point at which you get your reward.
We're in the middle of that grind and I love it.
It might be stressful, I and many others might be heavily underpaid, investors might have to wait, but if we stay focused and pull it off, there will be no comparison to any other crowd funded business that is accesible for the regular public.

You don't have to believe me, or any green title on the forum, but ask a number of members who have been here for a long time.
Members who haven't always agreed with us, but do see the bigger picture and the hard work and potential.

Just to name a few people: Dguy, Druth8x, Gizmo etc.

I've seen every single idea on this forum and I take them all into consideration.
But some of them are simply way too large for the current size of our team (This would mean that the build might take so incredibly long that we might show no considerable progress for maybe up to a year) or are so expensive that I simply know that we won't be able to crowd fund it with the current user base.

Nothing in here is a ponzi.
Nothing/noone in here is after your money.

Personally speaking, I wouldn't even "become a thief" or what not if you would give me a $100m.
There are so many methods in which you can make money in an illegitimate way and much faster than being an honest man, but that's not the "legacy" that i'm after and I found myself a very good, hard working and honest staff that would absolutely drop me, andraz and Carlos like a rock if they thought we were aiming to do some kind of "heist".

Yes, we weren't able to legitimize ourselves in the eyes of banks yet.
Yes, we are not on any stock exchange market.
But we are sincere, hard working people with a vision.

Buy into it and support us or log out and come back at a later point in time.
No matter which option you choose, we will be here, expanding our empire. (We obviously hope to get as much support and help, that's our main strength)

P.S: Apologies for one of the moderators removing your post, but I was too late to stop it and as your post was quite aggressive, it got deleted.
Axiantor
Traffic Value: $14,813.95087 Portugal
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12/12/2016 23:11
Pacovska, it looks like you're having a bad day. We're all on the same side here.

Project funding is an opportunity only for those that invest in it. The profit of the project will only be distributed to them although everybody will benefit indirectly from MTV's success.
bozof
Traffic Value: $29,464.72207 Slovenia
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12/12/2016 23:52
Dont really know what that "fight" is about but looks like someone said something against Marc.

Personally I have quite some experience in online investing and i am not talking about few investments with 10 bucks or something. In past 4 years I found only 2 persons, 2 admins that are really working for crow for people who trust them their money and not only for their own fat @ss. One of those 2 persons in our CEO Marc.

He is not perfect, he is doing mistakes and he could do some things better same like we all do! But he is trying, he wants to do things good and he wants to do it not only for himself but for all of us! And people like him most likely succed in life!
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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13/12/2016 01:12
One more thing about the BAP ads in Paidverts.

I would like to bring up the suggestion again about having 10 BAP ads instead of 8. It would mean 10 Fixed ad spots which I think will have a good impact.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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13/12/2016 06:18
I'm not going anywhere. This is arguably the best sustainable income opportunity online. Especially for the little people who can start from nothing and build an income. Yes, we have made tons of mistakes. Those mistakes probably would have killed other business models but it has only shown the resilience of what we have here.
missi
Traffic Value: $12,691.63746 Australia
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13/12/2016 07:34
I may be fairly quiet but for those who are not familiar, I have been here for a great portion of the ride, up times and down, and will continue to stand by Marc and the rest of the team. 

For all the dedication and work that has been put in here to move things forward there is no reason to leave, there are only brighter days to come. 
pietro80
Traffic Value: $8,897.67057 Italy
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13/12/2016 11:43
i make this premise, i am here and risked my money (not being a rich guy) because this is probably the only real online business you can trust, we have a real good guy as ceo that is undoubtedtly doing his best to make things work together with an honest team and still if someone asks me a good place where try to invest some money i would talk about mtv, but about facts now, after almost a year and half talking about cash cow products, royal position reaching 1 cent, all of this proved to be just unmotiveted hype, rp worth less then we started, paidverts needs more then a year to return your money, what are our real achievements, is there something is working into raise our average results in a consistence way?
i am not a business expert but i know needs time and there are difficulties to overcome, but after almost 18 months an investor wants to see results, not only hear good promises
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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13/12/2016 12:01
Not everything is a hit, and others take longer.

While this is not the norm, we do have one product, even with negative weeks, overall bringing in a nice amount of profit.

PPMG $0.00 $68,493.00
Uganka
Traffic Value: $3,117.03585 Slovenia
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13/12/2016 12:32
It takes money to make money! I wonder how much marketing campaign will bring us! Not a bad result: 68k$ in the first year!
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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13/12/2016 13:41
Just wait for the news about PPMG that i'll be posting later today.. LOL cheese
stark100
Traffic Value: $729.96203 Hungary
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13/12/2016 15:42
Wow. Top 10 cashout today is very scary in PPMG. Waiting for the news. smile
kyerby
Traffic Value: $114.4342 United States
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13/12/2016 17:10
I have a suggestion that would make it easier to deal with support issues. Create an email address that you can contact and reply to. As it is now I have been unable to accomplish sending documents to unlock bitcoin and verify my account. If I could simply send you the pdf file this would be accomplished.

You arent validated by banks. That explains why credit card options for deposit and/or debit cards that can be reloaded for payments.

I'll be sticking with this site as I see very cheap shares that I believe will rise as this site is stable and creating new products. Wouldnt take much to double the price of these shares and that is an excellent investment to make.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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13/12/2016 17:35
We did have a credit card option, but they wanted to keep $250.000,- in deposits before we could use it as a cashout option, so we stopped using them as it would make us extremely illiquid under current conditions.

There are multiple ways to get your images to our support, simply upload it to an image upload-website and that's it.

We've dealt with 100s of thousands of documents already, we never needed any email support for it.
redigaffi
Traffic Value: $1,654.17 Spain
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13/12/2016 17:37
People talking about hyips and ponzis, and their forgetting our hole economic system is a big ponzi, yes a big lie. 

How do banks pay us? With money of others.
Where do come the money we get paid from our job? From other peoples money.

And money? they just print it! if you think it a lot of waste without value that is destroying us...

Also don't cry about ponzis or hyips ... everything is it, don't be an hypocrite.

Is MTV a Ponzi? well tecnically yes... but the difference is that MTV create value, it create products that can sostain this economy.
Axiantor
Traffic Value: $14,813.95087 Portugal
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13/12/2016 17:56
Banks pay you?! What a lucky guy! ermm
Uganka
Traffic Value: $3,117.03585 Slovenia
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13/12/2016 18:10
@redigaffi you don't understand the meaning of ponzi!

Here is a "definition" of a ponzi on wikipedia: (click on the link to find out more!)

Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent.

We (MTV) have our products, where we earn the money to pay you back + profit!

PS: And what is that all about, if I go to work, I earned my money, that I worked for so what's ponzi about that?
redigaffi
Traffic Value: $1,654.17 Spain
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13/12/2016 18:19
Yes, i fully understand meaning of a Ponzi.

The money comes from other peoples money, so that is the ponzi. 

Imagine this example, im working at a travel agency:

Where do come my salary from? Well from people that travels and has paid us money, also this money comes from other people. So the entire system works like this.

A ponzi is nothing bad, look MTV, it works great because it create value. 

Banks, can collapse and you will lose your money, you can lose you job because of clients (consumers) leave paying/buying products...

You see.

MTV could stop working if no one is interested in playing casino or investing, it can also collapse.

There a differences between a "Ponzi" and a Ponzi.

Our whole economic system is one. Don't misunderstand me... Im not bringing down MTV.

Axiantor, when you put money in your bank, your money is used for credits for other people and other stuff.
Uganka
Traffic Value: $3,117.03585 Slovenia
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13/12/2016 18:25
It's not a ponzi if someone does something for you, and you pay him for it! Where do you see a ponzi in that?! You really don't understand the meaning!
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