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I can only come to this conclusion: admin was going mad or something else siddartha! Now that the first round was finishing, the purchases were increasing fast.

Sold my luna at 2.1k, I don't see much future on it now. The good thing is that I'm now more used to trading.

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20/03/2017 06:53

I got some more info. Can't make a new post, so posting here.
I got some new info guys. Both the persons, whom I accused for hacking Bitluna, personally contacted me to tell their parts of the story. And seems they are pretty much innocent.

First about Bendani (Lunacoin Developer and partner for sometime):
He just contacted me this morning, to give me details of what he knew. As per him, Luna Giffiths didn't have the skills to make Lunacoin a real coin, or develop mitefx, luna wallet and Lunacoin related other stuff. As per him, 2 weeks before the launch of site, Lunacoin was not working. And then he came in contact with Luna Griffiths and helped him make the coin a real thing.

"So I helped with the very basics, Because they were very stupid about the coin, They didn't even know how to create mitefx, The day I left. Lunacoin got lost. I was the one who cared for it, While Luna killed it"

As for his payments, he said, he got nothing, just the funds to develop Lunacoin, and that too initially. I personally find it difficult to digest. If Luna can give money to me and other support staff members, that too without asking, then why not to him. But maybe he is right, who knows?

As per him, initially he was given funds to develop the coin, but later Luna Giffith was not very interested in developing the coin and so funds for development of Lunacoin stopped. And that was when he decided to leave the Luna network.

"she didnt give me money to do mitefx, that's why she couldn't do it, you dont get it, when i left, she had nothing."

He says he was good all along and that Luna Griffith was bad.
"I was light, she was darkness."

He also said that he tried to warn everyone about Luna Griffiths, and no one took him seriously. It is in fact right, he did scream everywhere he could, that Luna will scam, and that has actually happened (most probably). And he was not the regular hater, he was the one who closely worked with Luna Griffiths. If we had heard him, proabaly we could have been saved. Intentionally or unintentionally, the site is not working for most of us.

"when i understood she is darkness, I took my bags and notified everyone man, i did my best, but you went against me, the public is stupid, im honest pesrson, ,i did my best for luna , it was all me that was making the coin worth anything, but all my help couldnt work when she was SCAM"

I asked him that if he hacked Bitluna, because he had all the reasons for the revenge, he said,
"When I realized the coin wasn't real , I did my revenge
by telling on luna boards with luna user - that it's a scam..
that was my "revenge" but afterwords I did nothing
I have some skills but I don't use them for hacking"

I requested him to hack into Bitluna and keep the things floating. But he said that he used to do this stuff 10 years back, and now does not want to go back in that dark area again.
"i do not want to get in touch with hacking community back in get back into dark areas, yes there is good hackers, but very hard to find these, i had my tail 10 years ago on hacking community, i dont want to get into that business again, bad people mostly."

I also asked him about how true can be the hacking story and he said that Bitluna can't be hacked from outside. Someone from inside did something. Maybe Luna Griffiths trusted some wrong person and he took all the money.

"the problem is she trsuted the wrong people, she gave key to wrong person probably,and he toke her money"

He also told me that maybe Luna Griffith was not the real owner, but just a hired admin only. And according to him, someone else had control over the money, who didn't allow Luna Griffith to give money for the development of the coin.

"she had partner who was in charge of the money as she claimed, but not sure who and how and why, she didn't give me private info, she told me she wants to give money for luna coin, but someone else don't want to give me or something from her team, i think it wasn't the admin, maybe someone admin hired, to act as admin"

If true, then it means that Luna tried to make things right, but was just a puppet of someone else. Maybe someone else, even more anonymous than Luna Griffith, controlled the things. He also said that on skype also, it was different persons answering, and not Luna Griffiths always. Although I think his estimation is wrong here, as I always felt talking to the same person.

I asked him why would Luna Griffith just abandon this project, when it was going so good. He said that it's because Luna didn't want to work hard, and it was just easier for Luna to take money and go. Again a bit hard to believe. Luna Griffith was hard working from the start itself, be it the DDOS attack initially or the end days issues, he was working continuously. If you noticed Luna during poker launch, you must have seen him actually working on it, taking feedback from members, improving it and even playing it. He didn't just launch it and forget it, but worked on it to improve. Sadly that was the gate from which hackers also came and stole BTC (as per Luna).

I asked him what his future plans are, he says,
"LunaPal.com Is the first idea i had in my mind, after i saw your message, that what was missing all along is a Real Pal, so I want to approach luna coin different way, maybe lunapal could be Tech support service, that is free, but could be premium service with luna coin, or maybe we could do something else."

He plans to work on it after 2 months, when he has enough funds. Frankly speaking he did not ask for any funds. Maybe he can really make the Lunacoin working (not Bitluna) again, so you may want to hold on your Lunacoins.

And his thoughts on whether Luna Griffith will return, are surprisingly positive!!
"not sure what is the plan, maybe she will come back with mitefx at one point, or maybe she is already gone with money, who knows, but its too stupid too care too much about it, because you can't figure out".
So even he sees some hope, who knows that Luna may come after all, maybe after some weeks or months, but maybe come back. I will be waiting for sure.

Now about the Bitearn Admin (Murtaza Sheikh):
He contacted me after I wrote that long post. He said that he is not related to Bitluna in any way. He just copied some features because he liked them. As per him, he was also in contact with Luna during the last days, till Luna stopped replying, as with me. As per his chat screenshots, it seems, that Luna was really not able to do the BTC thing right. Also, we can see that new investors were going to join after 1st cycle, as I mentioned before. And in his chat Luna told Murtaza, that he is the only admin and 3 people work on the site (maybe us the support staff, or some shady other anonymous people). About if his revshare will work, he is very confident that it will work!

So guys, this is the info I got from these 2 guys. They both personally contacted me. I hope some more people who knew Luna, also tell us their part of stories.
After my post, I had so so many private messages from you guys, that Bitluna could not scam. Most of you still believe that Luna will be back some day, especially with that Payza tap still open!! Now many people say that Bitluna was scam from the start, but I think it was a solid plan. It was not HYIP, just 2.5%/day till 130% and then some minute earnings depending on profits. Ref commission was also basically low and required to have a good team to earn more ref commissions. Products were launched one after the another, and more investors joining day by day. In these conditions, Luna Griffith leaving Bitluna is just like if one closes his gold mine after discovering even more gold. Or maybe, Luna Griffiths was more practical minded than us and thought that, "A bird in the hand is better than 2 in bushes", and just took away whatever was left after the hacking. Or maybe he is just working and has left the Payza tap open to indicate that. No one knows, but I will keep working on finding new info, because whenever I sleep, the message just flashes, "I give up".

I have also decided to contact Payza and see if they have some info about Luna Griffiths, because lately Payza has started strict verification of online business accounts. If someone has any contacts with Payza, then please get some info about Luna. He must have left some trace. He can't be the smartest person on this Earth. Once we get him, we will tell him about the "law of averages". Remember, that Traffic Monsoon guy was also caught. Although his business mostly failed because of Paypal, but he was also accused of running off with money, when Paypal released the funds. Maybe we can reach Luna Griffith also. Luna, if you are reading this, just come back and say something. You can't run forever man.

And lastly I would like UK citizens to put some brain into those "Companies House-UK" egg-heads. They are the biggest saviors of Revshares actually. Indirectly they promote scam sites. They just list any site without verifying the owners. I think even a child can list his site there. 1 year back, I actually sent them a mail to stop listing companies without verification, and those noobs said that it was not their job. They only list sites, not verify them. They gave me some cybercrime email. I wrote the same to those cyber crime guys, and they never replied!!

A fun suggestion to Payza investors:
I will suggest you to that after you get your seed and some profits back, keep reinvesting some amount back into Bitluna. Although there is very less chance, but you may actually keep getting the profits from Bitluna. Try this experiment, who knows it works! It will be like farming a dead site.

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totoer008
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20/03/2017 10:22

The only time I get lucky and receive a prize some days later it goes scam. I guess we cannot be lucky all the time

carvalho17
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20/03/2017 13:48

lol @totoer I had not thought about it at all, but I'm still unlucky losing $100, better than $110

siddartha149
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21/03/2017 09:32

I am still trying to find Luna. So asking members on FB to report against Luna Griffiths. Most of get scammed, but don't do anything to report it. Bitluna was not meant to go scam, but still the Admin cheated us all and forcefully scammed it. From my FB post:
"Want to report Luna Griffiths for scamming you. Visit the link give below and submit the form. The form can take some time to fill, can seem to be very complex to fill, but if you go till the end and submit it, then it will really make a difference. This goes straight to Uk govt. Cyber cell. If many people submit this form, then chances of Luna being found and arrested increases very much. Do this last thing, and then move on. But do your part, create a fear among this scammers, if nothing else. Crying won't help, taking action will.
I have also made a video, in case you find the form difficult to fill."
https://youtu.be/BXme6yCAH3Y
http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report-fraud-about-you

siddartha149
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22/03/2017 17:04

Hmm, this Bitluna case keeps getting mysterious. I want to forget it and move on, but Luna keeps on doing new stunts. Now today, he manually made some STP payments, which were pending. And even more surprising is that the main site of Luna Network, lunacoin.org, which has been offline for past 2 weeks, is up and running. The lottery and poker icons which showed no image earlier, now show a big Lunacoin. Seems Luna is still working on site, or maybe the hacker!!

But please don't join this site, it's still risky.

Mariot
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22/03/2017 19:28

I witdraw every day in Payza, and its always instant.

siddartha149
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23/03/2017 06:27

That's good, Bitluna is the only revshare, which is in semi-scam mode!! Seems we should start giving some importance to Payza. Even scam site owners are fearing it. The only downside of Payza is big fees, but I guess if it helps us secure our funds, then we should start using it.

Well, Bitcoins users can't withdraw their Bitcoins, and neither can use ad credits for regular ads. But I just found that you can use those ad credits to promote your videos, they get approved instantly. Use the "advertising>add video ads" and just add a video, of your new programme to advertise it. You can also use the monetize option to get some money from youtube. I guess this is the only good use we can make of our funds in Bitluna. I have started reinvesting account money to buy more adpacks and get adcredits in return.

Felipe
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26/03/2017 23:26

Anyone getting this error while trying to spend your credits?
"Invalid token given, please try again."

siddartha149
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27/03/2017 05:25

No, I am not getting any such errors. By the way, you can only spend your ad credits on video ads now, as there is no one to approve other ads.

Mariot
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27/03/2017 09:38

Still paying instant in Payza.
Thanks.

totoer008
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28/03/2017 07:09

Videos ads are delivered real fast at least I am getting back my money somehow

siddartha149
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28/03/2017 16:22

Ya, video ads are good. I hope that even if admin does not come back, at least this site should keep running as long as possible. We can get some monetized video views on our youtube videos and also earn $0.003/video ad view. It will help lessen our losses a bit. Please choose "profile>your details>preferred processor>payza" and view the video ads. You will get all your ad view earnings in Payza processor and then keep withdrawing as soon as Payza balance reaches $1. This is the best use you can make out of Bitluna right now.

Mariot
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29/03/2017 08:42

No connection to server anymore, I think the cow is empty.

siddartha149
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29/03/2017 08:59

Ya seems the ship has finally sunk, or a very less chance that Luna is doing some upgrades and we may get our pending withdrawals. Will have to wait till tomorrow to know for sure.

Mariot
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29/03/2017 10:16

Bitluna is now back online but whitdraw in Payza is pending.

Mariot
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29/03/2017 19:22

DONT invest to this sc@mmer!!!!!!!!!!

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