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dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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13/05/2017 16:48
@fraser,

dremis pretty much answered for me.

We are already taking a lot of money from these people. There is no need to plunder them. It is better to at least offer them some entertainment for the money they are losing
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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13/05/2017 21:40
Ad Packs Yesterday: 1154

BA: 2769600
AA: 4299173 
Removed: 1.62MIL

Total BAP: 764164808 (+5.44MIL)
Active BAP: 659375859 (+3.69MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
103,385,459/104,055,728 = 99.5%

Active Accounts: 51.8K - Seems to have slowed to a crawl, drop wise
fraser
Traffic Value: $11,569.46477 Australia
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14/05/2017 04:03
@dremis and @dguy (thanks for the different opinions)

Do you really think that by adjusting the games by 1% in favour of the house would drive people away?  Some...possibly.  Many...I have my doubts.

People play casino games because they like the thrill of get rich quick.  Most realise that it's likely that they won't win (but look how many people still play the lottery!)

I'm not suggesting trying to rip-off or deceive anyone.  What I'm suggesting is that a 1% shift in the odds in favour of the house.  As of right now, Paidverts is still not sustainable.  Debt increases on more days that it decreases.  That is not a sustainable business model (unless you're going to prop it up from other areas of the business).

It's not uncommon for a slot machine to have a 15% house edge...I'll not even go in to the odds in the lottery.

I find both the matrix and trading funding far more ethically dubious than a house edge adjustment.

Let me be clear, I'm not questioning Marc's honesty (I think he's done more than enough to prove that) I just think that these projects are not exactly what you want to build a business on. Granted (looking at the funding they've received) I'm obviously in the minority. I'm fine with that...but still feel it's important that different opinions are voiced.

Incidently @Marc (if you're reading this), can I politely suggest that where someone (anyone...not just me) has a constructive suggestion that you disagree with, that you give a reason for why you disagree.  I think this will give all other readers (who view but don't comment) a better idea of your vision, and further build the trust that you have worked hard to establish.
dremis
Traffic Value: $23,441.96122 Spain
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14/05/2017 09:59
i think we should not focus  in the house edge but in increasing the volume of players via advertising or any way possible, having lower house edge than the competitors it is always a smart move combined with an amount of years paying gamblers no matter what
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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14/05/2017 18:48
Ad Packs Yesterday: 869

BA: 2085600
AA: 4204134 
Removed: 4.5MIL

Total BAP: 765958282 (+1.79MIL)
Active BAP: 660501544 (+1.13MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
111,282,329/113,440,161 = 98%
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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15/05/2017 19:46
Ad Packs Yesterday: 706

BA: 1694400
AA: 4148809 
Removed: +2.14MIL

Total BAP: 773946336 (+8MIL)
Active BAP: 667881912 (+7.38MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
154,373,222/147,956,010 = 104.5% (~6.5MIL)
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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16/05/2017 22:05
Ad Packs Yesterday: 702

BA: 1684800
AA: 4901575 
Removed: 9.26MIL

Total BAP: 771277123 (-2.67MIL)
Active BAP: 664974071 (-2.91MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
117,390,225/120,143,304 = 98%
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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17/05/2017 18:51
Ad Packs Yesterday: 1041

BA: 2498400
AA: 4299162 
Removed: 14.28MIL

Total BAP: 763797911 (-7.48MIL)
Active BAP: 659088944 (-5.89MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
169,787,857/176,612,149 = 96% (~6.8MIL)
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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18/05/2017 21:51
Ad Packs Yesterday: 1099

BA: 2637600
AA: 4882975  
Removed: 11.28MIL

Total BAP: 760040465 (-3.76MIL)
Active BAP: 654067926 (-5.02MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
93,035,683/95,836,724 = 97%
Felipe
Traffic Value: $334.9432 Brazil
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19/05/2017 13:05
A question...

In order to avoid BAP tax I should buy an adpack in the same day of the week (after two weeks) or I can buy in the following day (making it 15 days)?

Example:

Buy on monday at 9am and after two weeks i buy again on monday at 9am

or

Buy on monday at 9am and after two weeks i can buy on tuesday at 9 am without being taxed..
Vixthra
Traffic Value: $2,179.00664 Slovenia
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19/05/2017 13:23
If I was looking at it correctly, you have to buy it when it still days you are tax free for 1 day.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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19/05/2017 16:41
I think if you can buy b4 01:58, even if your counter shows "No", you can avoid the tax. I did this in the past like clockwork and I believe it worked every time. Only time it "didn't" was when I messed up on days left...thus I wound up increasing by 1 day, when I should have been able to stay at every friday just after reset and just b4 tax.

But, in that case, you will need to do it every 14 days btwn 00:01 and 01:58, anyways....so max 25hr59min if done then. However, you can also do it 0:159 or later and then next time on the 15th "day" 01:57...however, after that instance, it will revert back to that just under 2hr window.

Also, if you buy that early, you easily risk not getting way over delivered in ads. i.e. still have min a few left hits so when they deliver the Group Ads, your campaign gets swept up in it.

I had switched from just b4 01:58, b/c often I'd have just completed b4 07:00, to just b4 07:00, nowadays they have in general 2 times of day morning or lunch, so it is all luck when.

I have since just given up, noone responds to my ad...and it's different and free, and besides, with that $1, I get more BAP via the MarketPlace.


The main takeaway is that BAP tax occurs at 01:58, so when you get the "No", you have until the next 01:58 that occurs.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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19/05/2017 20:54
Ad Packs Yesterday: 969

BA: 2325600
AA: 4310294  
Removed: 957K

Total BAP: 765719621 (+5.68MIL)
Active BAP: 658234882 (+4.17MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
113,605,466/112,115,762 = 101.5%
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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20/05/2017 23:18
Ad Packs Yesterday: 1056

BA: 2534400
AA: 4840372  
Removed: 10.71MIL

Total BAP: 762382549 (-3.34MIL)
Active BAP: 654676699 (-3.56MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
104,492,925/109,867,100 = ~95% (~5.4MIL)
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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21/05/2017 18:56
Ad Packs Yesterday: 1631

BA: 3914400
AA: 4163085  
Removed: 3.75MIL

Total BAP: 766712120 (+4.33MIL)
Active BAP: 659353037 (+4.68MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
103,540,294/104,273,859 = 99.5%+ (~500K)
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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22/05/2017 20:00
Ad Packs Yesterday: 855

BA: 2052000
AA: 4730075  
Removed: 5.52MIL

Total BAP: 767978625 (+1.27MIL)
Active BAP: 660303433 (+950K)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
79,428,471/81,003,920 = 98%
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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23/05/2017 18:09
NOTE: RP Market was temp closed starting @19:00 server.

Ad Packs Yesterday: 1,667

BA: 4000800
AA: 4321608  
Removed: 6.16MIL

Total BAP: 770140331 (+2.16MIL)
Active BAP: 659082722 (-1.22MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge:
119,173,522/119,608,175 = 99.5%

Active Users: 49896
(under 50K for the first time, in years, still slowly dropping - ~25K still log in daily)
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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23/05/2017 18:20
Wholly crap this was a big purchase (3mil BAP $1,297):

BA-6196491

Plz tell me this is valid and not another exploit.

I see that they've been around since 2014, at least sporadically.

To the Advertiser, thank you for your campaign. I hope it goes well for you. If you have more advertising budget available, we offer other choices at even more affordable rates. Also, make sure to view one AA ad in the next 6 days and then you will be able to get all 10 of your 1% Ads.
il051
Traffic Value: $14,823.02214 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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23/05/2017 19:42
Really nice purchase, indeed.
Since he made a deposit using Bitcoins, which arrived today, it's practically impossible that it's not real and, as you said, it's one of the older members who already bought tons of bulk ads so I believe there is nothing to worry about.
I also noticed that account maintenance fees are dropping day after day which corresponds with your data posted here (number of active accounts). I presume that remodeling of Paidverts will stop this trend, but there is always something more important to do than this.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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23/05/2017 20:00
That one is legitimate @Druth.

@Il: We are in the middle of remodeling Paidverts, actually tongue
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