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hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
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19/07/2014 17:36
To be honest the sharemarket works perfectly fine as is... To much time brainstorming about something that is not broken. Right now all attention should be on clearing all the missing deposit issues. Then work on programming support and new profitable products.
loscar - Administrator
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19/07/2014 17:58
Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con Yen e incluso voy mas allá.  El mercado de acciones de MTV, tiene las mismas características que un mercado de acciones cualquiera, pero MTV no es el Nascad. es nuestro mercado y por tanto las determinaciones que tomemos respecto a este mercado nos afectan directamente ya sea positivamente o negativamente a nosotros que somos la base de MTV, no a otras personas que son de un mercado libre.
Por esto,  creo y estoy convencido que tal como está ahora el mercado interno, las acciones de MTV tendrán una resistencia muy fuerte para subir el precio.El que suba el precio no es malo, si no todo lo contrario. El patrimonio de cada uno se verá incrementado cada día. 
Si de mi dependiera pondría unas reglas mínimas para el mercado de acciones de MTV. " lo que es bueno para todos es bueno para uno"
Estas serían mis reglas:

1- Pondría un tope en la cantidad del número de acciones a la venta, pues impedirá que otros puedan vender algunas o un número de terminado de acciones hasta que el anterior haya vendido el monto de sus acciones. Este ciclo lo podrá repetir tantas veces como quiera, una vez vendidas su cupo, diario o  semanal
2-El precio de la acción no se podrá vender por debajo del precio actual que esté en cabeza de venta, pues poner un precio inferior dinamitará la estabilidad en el precio y vez de subir, siempre esatará dando un paso hacia adelante y otro hacia atras, pero siempre irá bajando . Creará competencia, no sana, pues como el mercado de la forma en que está es volatil, la codicia ( especulación), del que compró baratas las suyas, no le frenara ponerlas a la venta a cualquier precio con ta de que supere al de su compra.
3-El valor de la compra de las acciones, no se veria afectado, pues la compra de 100 acciones a 0,10= 10$. La compra  de una accion a 10$= 10$ y para la venta es igual. Sin embargo por lo que respecta al  patrimonio de cada uno de los miembros y el efecto dominó, sería muy importante, pues tanto para nosotros como para los inversores nuevos, tendría un atractivo importante, al ver una acción con un valor alto y la  cartera de cada cual tendría un valor importante en $, no en número de acciones.

Hay mas cosas que se pueden añadir. Es mi opinión como he dicho al principio, pero desde hace mucho tiempo estoy convencido de que ha y tomar medidas respecto al mercado de acciones.
goofy255
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19/07/2014 19:21
@loscar

what's the point of writing in spanish when 95% users dont undestand even single word... including me..
quin
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19/07/2014 19:52
Hi

Estoy de acuerdo con loscar en todos sus puntos, con Yen y con otros sobre este asunto.

Me permitiría añadir un punto mas que nos afecta a todos con  el actual estado del mercado de acciones.

Si alguien compró acciones hace un par de semanas a 0,120, hoy se sentirá molesto. No solo habrá perdido dinero, si no que estará frustrado, por no haber invertido en otra opción de MTV.

De esta forma nadie tendrá la  seguridad de hacer una buena inversión comprando acciones, pues al día siguiente puede comprobar que sus acciones han perdido el valor de su compra, con lo que no solo no habrá obtenido un beneficio con ellas, si no que tampoco lo habrá obtenido si hubiera invertido como decía en otra opción.

El actual estado perjudica  tanto  a los compradores de acciones como  a  MTV.

El aumento del  valor de la acción de una empresa es el mejor  indice la marcha de esta. La perdida del valor de la acción es la mejor forma de ver  que la compañia esta pasando por problemas. 
arslan75
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19/07/2014 19:54
@loscar   u are right

Translation

I totally agree with Yen and even going beyond. The stock market of MTV, has the same characteristics as any stock market, but MTV is not the Nascad. is our market and therefore we make determinations regarding this market will affect us either positively or negatively to us that are based on MTV, not to other people who are of a free market.
Therefore, I believe and I am convinced that as the domestic market is now MTV actions will have a very strong resistance to raise the price.The up the price is not bad, but quite the opposite. The assets of each will be increased each day.
If my minimum would depend on stock market rules MTV. "What is good for all is good for you"
These would be my rules:

1 - I would put a cap on the amount the number of shares for sale, as will prevent others from selling some or a number of actions completed until the previous one has sold the amount of shares. This cycle may be repeated multiple times, once sold their quota, daily or weekly
2-The price of the stock may not be sold below the current price that is at the head of sales, then put a lower price dynamited stability in the price and time of uploading, esatará always stepping forward and one backward but always go down. It will create competition, not healthy, because as the market the way it is it is volatile, greed (speculation), which bought cheap hers, he braked no them for sale at any price with ta that exceeds that of its purchase.
The 3-purchase value of the shares, no would be affected, since the purchase of 100 shares at 0.10 = $ 10. The purchase of shares at $ 10 = $ 10 and for sale equals. However with regard to the assets of each of the members and the domino effect would be very important, because for us and for new investors, it would have a major draw, seeing action with a high value and portfolio each have an important value in $, not in number of shares.

There are more things to add. It is my opinion as I said at the beginning, but long'm convinced you and take action on the stock market.


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@colasander

what is u want to do with share market if u want to really sell than permanently put the bid so that any other big investor come and buy ur shares 
can u finally tell us what is u want to do with ur shares .....

plz don't try to feel new users they loss his money and don't show again and again mtv share market is risky

because already everyone see the paidverts able to gain price agian like as first just need to wait... like as first when the price is 9 cent and anyone don't want to purchase shares ,,

PV come back agian like as first
poorkie
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19/07/2014 20:22
Colasander cancelled his sell order. 

I agree with Jo, people can sell their shares at whatever price they desire, supply and demand (and the dividend) will drive up the price.  Now is a great opportunity to buy low....don't give him a hard time for selling, he might just trying to cash out....maybe he wants to buy a new car.smile  We all want the stock price to go higher and fast, but just give it time, it will get there.
mwschmalz
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19/07/2014 21:22
i notice that the thing that sparked this post, colasander listing 350,000 shares on the marketplace, no longer exists, that is he cancelled his sale. 

The shares are now a lower price, that a savvy investor could certainly take advantage of. 
I'm not saying that this was his intention, but if it was, then this is a perfect example of manipulating the marketplace to one's own advantage.

Just at thought.
colasander
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19/07/2014 21:53
I just wanted to show that it is hard for me and other big investors to sell all their shares at a value they want to sell their shares for. I already mentioned (or asked) it before, I would like to have the bidding part of the system out of the way, just like we had a few weeks ago. At that time we only had the sell part, and if someone wanted to buy shares, he could only do by buying the cheapest shares for sale. Now if I want to sell all my shares, it is very hard, because if I list my shares 380K @ $0.10, then everyone who wants to buy thinks, well I do a bid for X shares worth $0.09-$0.095 each, because it will be accepted sooner or later. Now even PV itself places bids, instead of directly buying up shares..

But also mentioned earlier, at least this created some opportunities of buying some low priced shares, for me, PV and all other members. We all know it will reach $0.12 soon enough, which gives a 50% 'risk free' opportunity on shares again smile
mytraffic34
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19/07/2014 21:58
@coolsander
do you have any idea what you did to the market?
of course you have, you proved how influential are those with more shares
basically you show that people with so many shares like you controls the market
iworknet
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20/07/2014 04:54
Who are afraid of MTV will fall because the MARKET SHARES is too low?

What are the disadvantages and advantages of having low prices in MARKET SHARES?

As far as I believed Shares Market have in common there's ALWAYS RISE and FALL in the MARKET

From now the prices are too low.. The question is how far does it go?

Is there anyone here have a confidence that the shares will rise again?

Please let everyone know in fairly manners so, even have all members that have no knowledge in the effect of this issue may have learned it, the fact how important it is to know and must know, smile

I am asking this because I'm new of this and I want to understand how important it is in MTV
slosumo - Administrator
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20/07/2014 06:01
All colasander did was drop the market price by people who have no idea what's going on and panic when they see a big investor selling his/her shares. Just buy up shares, there's only a few $k worth before the price reflects back to 0.12$+, easy profit.
hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
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20/07/2014 06:08
Of course the price will go back up. People will buy them cheap now and wont list them or will list them higher later. It is all about sharholders and what price they are willing to sell them for. Personally I would like to purchase as many shares as possible and hold them. I know thats not an always an option for everyone. So anyways eventually lower priced shares will sell and the price will increase again. I like when the price drops it makes investing in share market much more affordable.
slamtahir1
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20/07/2014 09:16
@jo 

colasander is right bidding system need to close because if any one want to purchase share than purchase direct from market don't put a bid and do the market down it's really hard for big seller to sell shares ..

tongue laugh
QuilhosKing
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20/07/2014 09:46
Bid system is fine for everyone who need to sell the shares quickly. 

Imagine you need the money and you have all the money in shares. If you list them normmally, it will take to much time. You can accept the bids. Of course you lose some money but it's a way to do money fast.
infoModel
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20/07/2014 10:52
Wow... I did miss out a lot. Interesting conversation has been going on all this while...

Well, take it from me... I have been buying and I will keep buying. I see the drop as an opportunity, a buy signal. It is the nature of market, it is up and down always.... lots of sentiments, I guess after the tough times, we recently went through in the past 3 weeks or so... it is only but normal that this reflects at that moment in the market. Some sort of delay effect in the time series data. I think it will eventually rise again and probably, gain tremendous momentum thereafter. Like someone already pointed out, how far will it drop is the worrisome unknown... but in any case, I make it an effort to grow my share everyday.

What matters in the long run is a company's actual underlying business performance and not the investing public's or some recent past sentiments about its downtime (Error Code 20), the colasander effect, delay in support ticket responds and all that short run issues that is why they say..... in the short-run, it is a voting machine while in the long-run, it is a weighing machine. Think long-run... if you canexcaim

Take advantage of the situation if you can, my dear Investors... sell or buy, it is a free market... just make sure at the end of the day, you come out profitable.

To Our Success grin
loscar - Administrator
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20/07/2014 11:09
19/07/2014 17:58 
I totally agree with Yen and even going beyond. The stock market of MTV, has the same characteristics as any stock market, but MTV is not the Nascad. is our market and therefore we make determinations regarding this market will affect us either positively or negatively to us that are based on MTV, not to other people who are of a free market. 
Therefore, I believe and I am convinced that as the domestic market is now MTV actions will have a very strong resistance to raise the price.The up the price is not bad, but quite the opposite. The assets of each will be increased each day. 
If my minimum would depend on stock market rules MTV. "What is good for all is good for you" 
These would be my rules: 

1 - I would put a cap on the amount the number of shares for sale, as will prevent others from selling some or a number of actions completed until the previous one has sold the amount of shares. This cycle may be repeated multiple times, once sold their quota, daily or weekly 
2-The price of the stock may not be sold below the current price that is at the head of sales, then dynamited put a lower price on price stability and instead of going up, always taking one step forward and one backward but always go down. It will create competition, not healthy, because as the market the way it is is volatile, greed (speculation), which bought cheap hers, he braked not put them on sale at any price that exceeds that of his purchase. 
The 3-purchase value of the shares, no would be affected, since the purchase of 100 shares at 0.10 = $ 10. The purchase of shares at $ 10 = $ 10 and for sale equals. However with regard to the assets of each of the members and the domino effect would be very important, because for us and for new investors, it would have a major draw, seeing action with a high value and portfolio each have an important value in $, not in number of shares. 

There are more things to add. It is my opinion as I said at the beginning, but long'm convinced you and take action on the stock market.
quin
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20/07/2014 11:23
In english:
Hi 

I agree with all your points loscar with Yen and others on this issue. 

I would add one point more than it affects us all with the current state of the stock market. 

If someone bought shares a few weeks ago to 0,120 today will be upset. Not only will have lost money, but it will be frustrated by not investing in another option MTV. 

This way nobody will be sure to make a good investment buying stock, because the next day you can see that their actions have lost the value of your purchase, so there will be not only a profit with them, but it neither will be obtained if he had invested as I said in another option. 

The current state hurts both buyers of shares as MTV. 

Increasing the share value of a company is the best index of the progress of this. The loss of value of the share is the best way to see that the company is going through problems.
webmydata
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20/07/2014 12:54
Yes, thats the characteristics of any share/stock market!
Prices go up and down, thats why you can make profit.
But if you buy high and sell low, of course you loose - just take the opportunity and wait until price goes up again!!
... thought that were common knowledge grin
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