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dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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25/05/2018 17:54
So I just turned $46.20 into $75 worth of BAP. Apart from doing enough referring to maintain the referral bonus, this is still a better, MUCH safer investment than many others out there
bambarec
Traffic Value: $17,409.62296 Romania
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27/05/2018 08:54
@unthink
 Is looking like you don't read anything of what i am saying and you just follow a line of propaganda, or that's the best of your understanding. We are 15 000 members mate out of 2 500 000 milions registered or more, cheapest RP ever, almost no activity on forum, just me and you argueing and all the promises made have past theyr term long long time ago. 
   I repeat again, paidverts have its potential wasted, if we make first 2, 3 groups be active we go easily over 100 000 active members. Every time the answer is'' where do we take the money from?'', Think in this direction and solutions will came, we make a donation fund monthly if you want for the benefit of paidverts as a solution, an investment fund or even lover the higher groups for a while. Everything to make first groups to earn at least 0.15$ daily in ads and be active.
  So, if i think in that direction i already find 3 solutions, stupid or not but i found some. 
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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27/05/2018 15:45
The lower end groups are seeing the same opportunity here that the higher ones are. So why would you take from the higher end people, who have seen the vision and taken a risk with some money, in order to give to the lower end people?
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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27/05/2018 17:40
I dont think that it is his point Dguy. He is more referring to that we have talked about getting new members a fair chance to get on board without having to invest money first. Its almost impossible as a free member to build up something. And to get that going we souldnt be like the most governments to give the rich people more and leave the poor people. To get all a chance the rich people should give something to the poor. Taking away a dollar a week from the higher groups can help the smaller groups to get it going. If the new members love it they will finally start to advertise get referrals and invest and then you get a snowball effect. If you give the small people nothing and they wont be able to click ads then they wont come back and just leave us with an inactive account.

Its not up to us to come up with a solution aymore. We all have given ideas but as long as there isnt money for programming nothing will change.

I believe the TO DO list for paidverts is already verry long.

1 thing that could be done easily in my opinion is give every new member from day 1  an ad issue . No Minimum amount of bap needed to qualify for the lowest group (minimum 1 or 2 baps to receive the smallest ads of course)even if it is only 1 or 2 cents a day. Also start doing an ad issue in the weekends. People signing up on friday eve will have to wait untiill monday morning to see some ads showing up. I wouldnt come back if i dont see ads for 2 days in a row to be honest.
New members doesnt cost us money as still the biggest part of them will click a few ads only and we will never have to pay them. 
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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27/05/2018 19:25
I understand your point but I think it is also fair to say that if you are going to join for free and are expecting to take money out of the site instead of putting anything in yourself, you should be expected to work. It does take money to run the site and there is tons of competition for the ad dollars out there. As an advertiser, you know that the majority of clickers don't sign up for what they see so advertisers don't even get a benefit that way

It is a fine line but I think we are just putting too much emphasis on how many join and thinking more of them would be active if only we paid more. That could be a wrong assumption. PV is not the only site that produces a lot of inactive members. That is the norm in the PTC industry

I think one of the differences between them and us is that we are so transparent in our stats that it is easier for us to see it. Neobux claims millions of members but how many of them are active? They give stats but how do we know they are accurate?
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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27/05/2018 21:01
thats the nice thing about paidverts that we know they are transparant, paying and sustainable. 1 of the biggest reason to join a PTC site. A member in the highest group wouldnt feel the difference if they get 15c a day less in ads but it could make a huge difference in the activity of new users. I am not saying that we need to give away dollars to new members. 

a constant flow of ads to click and at least a decent amount to click everyday is what the most ptc workers are looking at.
Its hard to reach payout in paidverts as a free member , so we dont have to be scared that we are not able to pay them when they finally reached the minimum after weeks of clicking.And besides our model has been devoloped that we basicly cant get into cash debt but only bap debt.
Also a member that have invested into paidverts and is in a higher group and receive dollar ads isnt a bigger chance for an advertiser that it will sign up. 

I still believe if we can make sure that a new free member earn like $0.05 a day for the first 14 days  that it will get them started and more then likely they already made up their mind if they are going to be a serious daily ad clicker or leave the site. But all the potential good clickers that join we also scare away right now because that there is really nothing to click for free members as they need a minimum amount of baps to get into the daily ad issue, and as i said earlier , if they join on a friday evening they have basicly nothing to click for days and all they earn will mostly be removed by bap and cash fees.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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27/05/2018 21:25
If someone wants to spend all their time clicking just to reach the payout threshold then I think we are teaching them wrong. Things will go much faster for them when it comes to building an income here if they reinvest the proceeds. Cashing out pennies or a few dollars is like eating their seed corn. They should be replanting that.

Maybe we need to start inserting splash pages in the ad stream that shows people how to use their cash to buy RPs and turn that into BAP which will help them double their money and grow an income a lot quicker
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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27/05/2018 22:35
jordy, have you looked at the numbers you are talking about?

If we take $0.15 from all of those earning $1+ per day just based off of Friday
$1.27 becomes $1.12 x 29 members = $4.35
$2.51 becomes $2.36 x 14 members = $2.10
$4.98 becomes $4.83 x 11 members = $1.65
=$8.10 "spare change" we can rastle up taking away 15c from our top 54 members, who to get that many BAP have invested hundreds, if not thousands very long term (BAP Market would be a huge loss)

It took $10, just to give everyone with 100-1599 BAP $0.0025 (quarter of a cent)
It took $62.5, just to give 4668 Group 1 members $0.0134 (just over 1c)
Neither of these are take home change due to maintain BAP lvl.

And, you think we can give them way more?

ETA we have 1 member with 50mil (and yes he is so close to 100mil but hasn't rebought for months, so he doesn't care) Heck, him alone is producing that "$8" that is now spread amongst all the rest of us.

 I DO like the idea of making sure there is something, even on the weekend for newbies...however we should have enough advertisers of that only to newbies ad that should be sent weekends as well, and always there are instant/CT type ads as well.

Remember Group 0 is only 100 BAP, that's easy enough, even with 100 BAP fee.
gugakip
Traffic Value: $739.34329 Belgium
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28/05/2018 11:01
Has anyone any idea how many of those new user ads a new user typically gets? I wonder if these are already providing what Jordy is asking.
mio2815
Traffic Value: $32,608.39303 Germany
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28/05/2018 11:36
@Jordy186: "And to get that going we souldnt be like the most governments to give the rich people more and leave the poor people."


Sorry Jordy186, but here you're more than wrong. If you take a deeper look into the BAP groups you'll see that in reality the stacks are already build against the higher groups. Not only do you need to jump over much higher gaps between the groups but you also get a worse payout (percentagewise) the higher up in groups you move.


IMO if you want people to stay longer and buy more bulk ads it should be the other way around.
So it makes sense to try to get into the bigger groups. If people knew in higher groups they would get a faster roi (I know PV is no investment wink) they would do anything (gamble, buy ads, use RP market more) to get there and of course stay longer and click more.


Just my 2 Cents.
passivetools
Traffic Value: $30,993.31104 United States
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28/05/2018 14:25
now you all are understanding!

you are teaching these 'ptc workers' to not look at ads, just click the ads.

which deems it as wasted advertising. 
when people buy website traffic, it is not just to burn up electricity. 
we want eyeballs seeing our ads. 
we want people who can read the content being displayed.

what advertisers truly desire? results. 
not just an impression.
not just a click.
not just a signup
not just one purchase.
I want one hundred loyal customers. 
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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28/05/2018 14:41
As long as I make money on the cost of advertising I am happy. That is called a profit. Do that enough times and big enough and you are feeding your family and on the way to rich
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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28/05/2018 14:44
Another point too which goes back to the original idea of MTV is that the more people we have making bigger incomes here the more advertisers will like it. If we can show them how many members have a proven income  those are people with cash in hand willing to buy goods and services
passivetools
Traffic Value: $30,993.31104 United States
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28/05/2018 15:09
definitely!
Which is why I am here, some of my best times were here, on MTV. I met people, earned a ton, even found many of my earning sources here. 

I consider MTV the mother of Passive Earner, because it inspired it''s creation.
http://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/monitor/passive_earner.html

and Passive Earner has inspired many programs. 
    (Zarfund was one of our bigger successes)
http://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/monitor/zarfund/1.html

Zarfund even inspired many programs as well. so you see the exponential impact MTV has upon the world!

------

MTV is a focus of people that WANT to earn. 
The amount/quality of traffic depends on how you use it. . . if you use it.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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28/05/2018 15:16
In my opinion still most of the people that signup and click ads dont cost us money at all as probably over 90% wont ever make it to a cashout. If you really take the money from the actual income then it should be so that an account get deleted after like 30 days inactivity and the bap thats left left over should go towards bap debt reduction and the money in those accounts could go towards newbies again.

What is the purpose of building up a huge database of inactive users

Also newbies should be learned how to use the share market on MTV to buy shares and sell for baps. Or an automated system that does it automaticly. i recall that there was plans for this as well
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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28/05/2018 15:36
Because they could see our banners or site advertised in the community and become active again. One thing I really hate is sites that delete the referrals that I paid money to get. If they join again and get active that is like money taken from me. As you say, it doesn't cost anything to keep them and we have the inactivity taxes that take away what they earn but why punish their referrers for the inactivity?
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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28/05/2018 16:17
Until the 31st our wagering competition will be available for you to take part in.
Reminder: This time 50% of our earnings is shared back to the top 10 wagerers, which can amount to serious money.
The first spot gets 25% of the pot.
husky14
Traffic Value: $111.3121 Canada
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28/05/2018 16:48
passivetools

if you want people to read the ads, put some kind of restraints on CAPTCHA, today was not a PV day, it was play captcha day, over and over and over and over
dragonx996
Traffic Value: $13,804.15918 Singapore
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29/05/2018 07:43
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Crimson
Traffic Value: $1,850.32389 Romania
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29/05/2018 08:07
Husky we have a good captcha,you can change it in your profile settings.
Account data >Switch to visual captcha.
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