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Instant Bap Ads and Bap reduction

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jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 10 like this post 0 people 17/02/2018 11:47 I had the thought to create a new Bap ads section on paidverts. Advertisers get the chance to buy advertising using their bap balance so basicly they can buy a new advertising campaign with the 2400 baps they received. What they get: 2400 baps give 400 hits earnings for clicker is 5 baps 400 baps will be instantly removed from the site. No referral earnings on the bap ads  Make these ads clickable for everybody and dissapear automaticly when expired. i think this will decrease the bap debts, will get more clickers more then once coming back to click so more activity on the site. Also new users can benefit from this as well. cannibal Traffic Value: $845.10784 Sweden 2 like this post 0 people 17/02/2018 18:48 Sounds like it's a good idea dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 0 like this post 0 people 17/02/2018 23:25 So what is to stop someone from buying a bulk ad and then using that to buy the BAP ad? We would lose on that because they get the 10% ads, the free advertising when they buy the bulk ad and it would cost us system resources for all the clicks jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 1 like this post 0 people 18/02/2018 08:51 well if it cost to much then make the price sharper then this but this also give every user the chance to buy cheap ads. A normal bulk ad cost 1$ and you only get 50 hits. We have also talked a lot lately about a solution to get new users relative cheaply more ways to be and stay active. Also i would like myself to see more activity after you have clicked the ads in the morning. after the ad issue is clicked i come back 1 or 2 times just to check my referrals but its hardly ever that there is ads to click. I think this could be a cheap solution and it will reduce the bap debt.  I cant figure out what it cost in resources eventually but it might be worth it to get new users active this way I would like that slosumo or marc comment on this idea druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 2 like this post 0 people 18/02/2018 10:09 "A normal bulk ad cost 1$ and you only get 50 hits" OK. I know that most "50" ads don't make it to Group Ads...but even those that don't, get more than 50. And, if they make it to Group Ads, they get hundreds/often thousands more. (hundreds being more reserved for medium sized campaigns). As far as your idea, advertisers shouldn't be buying BA. We have better options than that. That said we do sell BAP Banners, so BAP ads is a natural step from there. I also like that members will have more things to do. As far as delievery goes, we don't have it setup like that. For instance, even for TA, there needs to be a Paid Ad sent to the account, and then it gets changed to a TA, if the user matches an active TA. I think Andraz can send out ads if needed so TA's can be filled or something, but it's not normal. Which leads me to wanting the manual surf for BAP to come to fruition. Now, new members may not find the button to check if there are ads, but manual surfs with limited sites in circulation let you try to surf (and view the bought 1st page view of the day/week spot as well as other ad spots like banners/texts) and then if no sites you get a page saying so after that 1st page(s). That said, your idea as is, even if made profitable, I'm not sure will be used enough now or longterm. All b/c advertisers shouldn't buy BA. If you buy BA, you want the BAP, so why sell it for ad views? There just so minimal need for it...and you can sell your BAP on the market and buy another BA (cost of just under 2to1) to get another shot at those thousands of ad views via Group Ads and ofc BAP to be halfway there again and again. jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 2 like this post 0 people 18/02/2018 12:15 thanks for your comments druth about those 50 hits for 1$....yes its what it says and what it should be and its usually giving much more then that. we are spoiled with that dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 2 like this post 0 people 18/02/2018 12:30 I think those 50 hits are a low but we have a sliding scale as to the cost of those for us. If you want to make a BAP debt reducer it wouldn't be hard. Yes, you just need to adjust the ratio. 2 BAPs for 3 or 3 for 4 would probably be the best rate. I think the 3 for 4 would get a lot of people clicking. It would also be a way for people to advertise if they didn't have any money which could be a whole selling point from our perspective jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 0 like this post 0 people 18/02/2018 13:49 I like this because those ads are clickable to everybody. You dont lose anything if you dont click them and you only gain if you click those ads. The amounts can be adjusted of course and of course if it would be more attractive you can choose also to add the referral system to it. Example. 1000 baps give you 150 hits  earnings 3 baps =450 baps ref earnings 1bap = 150 baps  400 can go to bap reduction dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 0 like this post 0 people 18/02/2018 14:40 You need to watch your profit rate though. A lot of people don't like to give too much profit to sites when they buy ads. I am like this. I know they are selling huge volume so they don't need as much profit and it should be going to the people. So I'll choose a lower profit site over a higher one if I have a choice betwen two and all other things are equal. It is not the same for this site of course because we all benefit from site profits but some people might not see it that way so they might look for advertising with the lowest profit margin for the site thinking that is the best bang for their buck but not thinking that they are only hurting themselves when they do it if they are using the site right jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 0 like this post 1 people 19/02/2018 17:13 i still wonder what marc and slosumo think about this addition to PV  hopvscape Traffic Value: $2,036.3384 Peru 0 like this post 0 people 19/02/2018 17:21 It looks realistically possible. jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 1 like this post 0 people 19/02/2018 19:49 i see your disagree marc , but some explanation would be nice