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bambarec
Traffic Value: $17,409.62296 Romania
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05/07/2022 13:50
You are working for free, all the staff is working for free, no one is makeing sarious money here, members don't do more than few dolars,  so why are you calling a bussiness than and work so hard for it?!
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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05/07/2022 15:13
@ss,

I documented it on the RP thread. I’m not saying it was just the contests but from February to May we went from 1161 million BAP to 1110mm. That was about 4% BAP in three months. Since then we are back up to 1121mm so something drastically changed in that time. That’s a 20mm BAP swing from positive to negative. One thing that did change was the contests and sales but I’m not saying that was all. I have been eyeballing it roughly and it appears part of the change is net gains from BAP gambling daily. I don’t know if the contest changes peoples gambling habits overall but we seemed to have less net positive gambling days where we pay out less than people bet but that is just a guess.

I’m not looking at PTCS because that doesn’t have a BAP market anymore so the dynamics are different
MisterDD
Traffic Value: $7,429.94412 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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05/07/2022 17:10
@all

once I start to work on my code (hope soon), I would have nothing against to share / sell idea to one more hand (or more), or stop my work on it, totally share it to someone, but have stake in that project and receive profits.

DO not get me wrong, I respect Paidverts and PTCShare, but I still stand behind my words, you can still make 100 % sustainable atractive and modern idea without BAP points, matrix/cycler investments, and even gambling (would not even go there).

What is more important project would not give more than earns daily (mass problems for all projects online), and there would be ways to atract all possible advertisers in all possible areas, with another layer of advertising, but that is quite complicated thing.

Too bad I never talked at least with guys, because lets be honest, what could we lose? Anyway I am still holding behind all 3 sites and will stay inside, I just wish that we clear that investments from Jo's time and start working again as normal business. Lot of progress is made, I just hope we came with one titan again. Revolution in marketing.

I know I am annoying with every single year with that, but lets be honest MTV-PV was best project online in marketing back then, why would not be again with something new, different, and attractive to all? I would still avoid freakin Paypal tho, cause I do not trust them. Anyway just thinking loud.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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05/07/2022 19:34
everything is just slowing down because there is no changes. everything been the same for years no new innovations or new ideas on the excisting products.

If we want to grow again we need changes and innovations to attract new people.

- dont say we soon will start to work on the database and background to lower the costs .....but do it and dont wait months for it
-Add faucetpay and dont wait months with it.
-Add new offerwalls
- remove those websites that are running on pv and ptcshare that dont work like BMF and Payeercasino.

instead nothing is being done that is visible for us except the great promotions that are running.

I dont say everything is bad and i dont say you guys arent motivated but it would be nice to show it. 
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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06/07/2022 08:06
I haven't been paid a salary for many years btw, nor am I even in profit on this platform in general (Salaries included).
That's all I have to say about the situation.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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06/07/2022 09:21
You guys are definitely the unsung heroes of the site. The problem I see with the site is an economics puzzle. We have the machine, we have the people. It’s just not running right. If we can find a way to tweak the machine properly, then it should start grinding up BAP and pumping out money.

If we can do that, we have a large enough affiliate team that word of mouth will start promoting for us
MisterDD
Traffic Value: $7,429.94412 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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06/07/2022 17:29
Honestly I learned something about coding, and I was doing 15 ways of internet marketing. Worst part was to create code for something you dont know how it works...... Or admin panel.......
Once I created math + all what I knew from websites, and removed bad things I came to something before 8 years.
Then I came to improved idea we talked in 2020, then I realized can be even better in 2022. Not sure how much better tho.
Why I didnt sold it? First noone cared? Why they didnt, who on internet wishes to create something sustainable + that is not false marketing nor ponzy? We all know if you create something sustainable and not ponzy, people will not be furious to it as they clickbait and lose money on something that says earn 255 %.. Right?
When I finally got offers I started to learn code and I dennied every offer.
Thing is, I DO NOT like idea to create tables nor math on coding.......... I did create math for project, but to transfer that logic to coding..... I am not sure I like it........ (read I am not sure I am competent in coding logic to create it in databases and connect to programming language with loops and other insane stuff).

I repeat if you (Marc and Slosumo) will be interested to crowdfund it, not only I will also fund it with my money, I will totally be inside + involve people in first fully sustainable project online without ponzy elements. But as I said, problem is that many people do not like idea "without ponzy elements" or risky elements. And yes, even marketplace can be connected, comparing to mtv-pv it will not lack of anything. Except gambling, BUT I have idea how to create games without baps etc etc and run them.

Not that I ask millions or big money, or anything, honestly I can do it for freefor you guys, just give me few weeks (I need some time to create final vision), but some notification like "MisterDD" was here during building website would be nice smile

Only what I would like is if we put project on sale to third party's since there would be surprise, it would not be only ptc........ If we put it on Google Store or something, then I except normally part of profits and even there I would not want more than 5 % except that, nothing.

Am I worth of time or not? Was it worth to listen me 8 years bragging about something revolutionary? You decide, I can sent materials, you present to people, if is worth, crowdfund it, but I do not see how it would be bad deal. There is something about project I refuse to talk, as I siad would not be ptc itself, nor just revenue share, its something more. I understand situation is not easy, specially novadays, but if you guys are ready for one more crowdfunding, my idea still stands. I dont expect anything in return except maybe one honorable mention in tos when you will protect your idea against sharing, + only part if in public sales.

BTW you can modify existing websites to that, but would need drastic changes and would not have that much of impact as totally new concept, BUT one new + modified 3 is still kicking ass, right? Sorry for gigantic post.
claudinho777
Traffic Value: $11,862.5317 Chile
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06/07/2022 23:58
Im here since 2014 and have many countries printing money to easily solve problems on short term all those latest years. But thats unhealthy on long therm. MTV is more sustainable on long therm because their not doing those easy solutions anymore.smile
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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07/07/2022 00:43
If I would change something in the PV and PTCS system right now, it would be the APS system.

I think Achievement Points should expire after 30 days or 45 days.

In the current APS system, a newcomer would have a hard time climbing up the APS ladder because the ones at the top already has tons of points. So there is no point climbing up. That means less earnings for the newcomers, demotivating them to stay.

My suggestion is to replace Achievement Points with Activity Points, same criteria but points expire say every 30 days. 

It's like having wagering and purchase competition everyday because everyday you need to earn points to keep your position in the APS ladder, or else you'll earn less.
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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07/07/2022 00:53
And how about creating something like Sumo Roll again and put it up on Google Playstore? (Shootout Champs can be a good mobile game.) Something static that doesn't need much maintaining and updating until it's profitable.

For starters, we can just reward players with BAP.

Say players need to complete some daily quest, which will give them a code they can use in Paidverts to claim say 25-100 BAP.

I would play it just to help MTV, even without the BAP rewards.
fraser
Traffic Value: $11,569.46477 Australia
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07/07/2022 02:40
People love Coin Flip.  It's been played 295 million times on Paidverts and 6 million times on MTV

People also love Bitcoin and are desperate for Sats.

Just give the people what they want.

You have the game.  Add lightning network.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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07/07/2022 02:46
I don't think the solution will come from spending. I believe we are cash-strapped. Unless you want to crowdfund. I think our solutions need to come from saving money and cost-cutting.
fraser
Traffic Value: $11,569.46477 Australia
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07/07/2022 03:42
That's been done @dguy

The guys are already working on a shoestring budget.

If that's the only option left, then there really is no promise left here at all.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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07/07/2022 04:35
Has it already been 5 years for Marc's Crypto 2? Huh?

How's my $1,110 doing Marc?

I see the PPMG SEO deadline is coming up (July 31st?)
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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07/07/2022 08:40
@fraser,

We still have our cash flow, our BAP system, and our dedicated clicker base. Those are monetizeable. We just need to tweak it. That’s what I believe. I think the key is the BAP base. We need to show viewers BAPs are growing in value relative to cash flow and that should lift everything else. People are willing to sell them for 30 cents on the dollar so they are greatly undervaluing them relative to time and actual dollars.

In the stock market they call that opportunity
freak300
Traffic Value: $56,564.16117 Germany
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07/07/2022 15:44
Honestly I haven't been around much because I saw this was coming at the beginning of the year and therefore sold all my RP. I know a lot of people won't want to hear this but realistically speaking the only way to pay of the FTQ and actually be profitable as a business is to focus on the business that already make the most money (PPMG and the coin flip game). I would personally discard the rest completely and just create a small MTV website with the real necessary content on it and just focus on the revenue generators and cut all other costs out completely. 

PPMG has made over $500k since it was launched and could by itself have paid of the FTQ. I know we have staff and running server costs but how realistic is it to maintain the staff after years of trying loads of projects and really none of them holding up to what they were expected to be? I know Marc and the team spent a lot of time on different projects but maybe it's just time to be real now and cut down the costs to the bare minimum. Publish  a really sleek version of MTV's website with just the coin flip game and forum on it as none of the others stuff generates income always and clear out the old database from inactive users. I still don't understand how the database costs are that high anyway?

I would let most of the staff find new employment elsewhere, finish the game and release it and that's it. I know this might sound brutal but it is the only way I can really see things actually change and pay of the debt as well as be profitable overall. As far as PV and PTC Share: When you really look at the income these sites produce for MTV, it is hard for me to believe that they are actually profitable at all. The reason why I am saying this is because the server costs must be pretty big, right? It just doesn't add up to me....

So anyways i am not really invested in MTV anymore as I just don't agree with the way the management does things. They have the best intentions at heart but I think we are just stuck and need to get unstuck.
warwickero
Traffic Value: $746.50089 Spain
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07/07/2022 18:43
I think the idea fraser mentioned could be really good. Just adding lightning network alone would be a good idea imo
MisterDD
Traffic Value: $7,429.94412 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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07/07/2022 20:08
Why dont you guys believe me? Just say yes, and after work (despite I changing country) I would sketch my project and send it to full fo MTV-PV staff.
Lets brainstorm best possible project online, but believe me, mine idea is 100 % revenue generator, WITHOUT any single possible area where loss can be generated!
I can not talk here since I would spend a lot of time + lot of space.
Believe me its, good. I believe word good is little. And no, its not even close to project that Carlos saw and tried to co-fund. Its like 20 times better than from that time.
And yes, there is solution to limit server and tables costs, quite effective way.
If you guys wonder why MTV-PV PTCSHARE had super big costs and maintenance problems, its actually since they running most long term track and history I ever saw online. That is a lot of pictures, data and sadly also server costs.
If someone from staff, anyone agrees with my proposal, and that I do not take their time, I will create support ticket, and once I am done, I will send full data, to you guys. Take your time, review it, and then also implement inside best possibletips others told. I am 100 % sure people would love it.
Most importantly, they would refer other people, you know why? Because would not be ponzy nor scam, and would be risk free. Besides server costs, NOTHING could crush it unless there is no revenues lol, what would hardly happen. Ylou would see why, as I said there is one more surprise, its more layers project with possible extension to make it super big.
Just let us help to MTV-PV, half of us could cashout and leave and panic, obviously many of us have no such intention. Quite opposite I do believe we can shash it and nail it, and make biggest titan of internet marketing ever.
I do not joke.
klikdiva
Traffic Value: $1,701.2323 Honduras
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11/07/2022 18:36
@slosumo

I tried to connect to the discord server, but it's not working for me: I get a black screen and a message that says that I don't have access to any text channel or that there are no text channels available on the server I got the invitation from.
I use discord web on a laptop. My phone is too full to think of adding one more app, so I'm not sure if there's something else I'm missing.
Other channels work fine for me so I wonder what's the problem here. Does anyone else get this? Do you know what's the issue and how to fix it?
JoNiLiuuS
Traffic Value: $5,754.7008 Finland
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12/07/2022 00:42
Slosumo, do you have some kind of backlog for the tasks to be done for the projects you are developing (scrum/kanban board)? If so, I could contribute by picking some of the tasks. I have already a job as a software engineer so I wouldn't need anything paid for my contributions. I just like programming a lot but I suck at coming up with my own ideas what to build as my own personal projects. Maybe this is not an option for security or for some other reasons. Anyway I am searching for some kind of interesting "open source" project to contribute to in my free time.
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