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ye141190
Traffic Value: $266.31373 Myanmar
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14/02/2017 20:50
I've just bought 15 ad packs with 15$ and i recieved 36000 BAPs in return...
1 BAP = 0.0005$ so 36000 BAP = 18$
It means i'll get 3$ as a profit...

But,in my opinion...
1 RP = 0.0024$ and
I'll get 6250 RP with 15$.

Again 1 RP = 10 BAP and consider i sell 6250 RP with 10 BAP for each and i'll get 62500 BAP..

62500 BAPs = 31.25$

Does it mean investing in RP is much more profitable than buying ad pack...??

Correct me if i'm wrong...
Light me if you have another approach....

Thank you...
gugakip
Traffic Value: $739.34329 Belgium
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14/02/2017 21:04
First of all, you can't use the BAP market until you have 12000 BAP. So you always have to buy adpacks for $5 if you've 0 BAP at the start.

Second, you forgot the tax you pay when selling for BAP. I'm not sure howmuch it is exactly, but somewhere between 5-15% (has changed a few times... I'll have to look it up). So the actual difference is less.

Third, when buying adpacks, you get some money back the next 10 days with the 1% ads of your adpack you get every day for 10 days. You'll get a $0.15 ad for the next 10 days due to your adpack purchase.

Last, you got advertising with the adpack purchase so you can advertise other products/websites and get commissions in the process if you got referrals or sell something. But yes, for a lot of people the BAP market is a good option.
fraser
Traffic Value: $11,569.46477 Australia
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14/02/2017 21:55
I think that the tax is 5%

You also have to consider that there is currently 40+ pages of people selling RP for BAP at 10. So...you either wait, or you sell for 9.
felibaudino
Traffic Value: $770.95545 Argentina
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15/02/2017 00:08
First of all, if you bought rps and wanted to insta-sell them to get BAP you should sell them at 9 Bap each so you would get 53437,5 BAP after the 5% tax, which is still more BAP than buying ad-packs.
But also you have to take into account that by buying Ad-packs you are getting a 14 days tax free and also some advertising. So the best way to invest them depends on your interest on getting or not advertising as well as the 14 day free tax.

Hope to be of help
jpla1991
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15/02/2017 05:19
This is the formula I use:

0.9 / (RP price in BAP) * (RP value you're going to sell) * 0.95

To break even it needs to be equal or higher than 2400, but you won't get ad views, obviously. I've counted with taxes when selling RPs for BAP (0.95) and also with the 1% * 10 ads, that's why the first number is 0.9 and not 1

I tipically only do it from 2800 upwards. At this moment, buying at 0.0024 and selling for 10 BAP, you get 3562.5 BAPs for every 1$ of RPs bought and sold
MichaelKline
Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States
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15/02/2017 05:40
The primary difference between these two models involves ads and BAP production.

Buying Ad Packs gives you advertising for your site, but it also produces additional BAP debt (20% of purchase value). It also, as an MTV bonus, adds to Results.

Buying RP and converting to BAP can give you a great deal more BAP, but it comes at the cost of no advertising for your sites. It works by transferring someone else's BAP to you in exchange for RP, so no new BAP is created. Plus, 5% is consumed as fees, so this method actually helps control BAP growth. There is also a patience factor in order to get the best deal as you will want to buy at the best available price and convert at the best available rate in order to maximize your potential gains.

I don't currently advertise anything, so I tend to use the RP-to-BAP method myself. If you are seeking potential referrals, ad packs are the only way to do that. Depending on your needs, you could try a mixture of the two.
Revoltchka
Traffic Value: $141.80329 Aruba
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01/07/2017 19:59
Hey guys,I just got a question here,it's has been awhile since I was in MTV/PV.

But did Marc posted anything about when would we start receiving RP business money share?


(sorry if this is a stupid question and that it has been answered before)
donsoulz
Traffic Value: $7,212.45963 Malaysia
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01/07/2017 20:02
@Revoltchka i never heard about receiving RP business money share

buying RP is more profitable than buying bulk ads..after you buy bulk ads $5 = 12,000 BAP

example $10 / current RP (0.0031) = 3225 rp

then you sell RP for bap (12 per RP) = 3225x0.95(Fee transfer)x12=36,765 BAP + 12,000BAP = 48765 BAP

1usd = 2000BAP with 5% tax commision to your upline
therefore 48765/2000x0.95 = $23.16 so profit $8.16

if you buy directly $15 = 36,000BAP x0.95/2000= $17.1 however, buying bulk ads have some advantage, you will receive 1% daily until 7 days of your capital = $0.15x7= $1.05 return 

but still RP more profitable than buying bulk ads unless you start buy now since MTV offer 25% extra for every purchase of bulk ads
bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
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01/07/2017 20:10
Revoltchka i am taking a guess here and saying your talking about Dividends. If so the answer is not until the company is making a profit and then only as proof of the idea.
Also you could be talking about when Marc was talking about starting a new company and exchange out the RP for share in the new company if that is it. Nothing been said on that one for awhile now. Mymatrix just launched which was suppose to be one of the pieces to paying off the FTQ then Marc said he was also working on ways to pay it off on his own. As soon as that out of the way then he might get back into the mode of starting a new company.
Revoltchka
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01/07/2017 20:24
@donsoulz that wasn't exactly what I ment but thanks for your reply.


@bigbadmoose your right I ment Dividents.Oh ok then well I sure hope that Marc would bring it back sooner/later (sigh) just gotta keep on waiting ermm
bigbadmoose
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01/07/2017 20:28
Revoltchka glad to help out. grin
donsoulz
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01/07/2017 20:29
@Revoltchka actually I give my opinion about @ye141190 topic... which one is more profitable RP or buying bulks adstongue
Revoltchka
Traffic Value: $141.80329 Aruba
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01/07/2017 20:32
@donsoulz oh ok my bad sorry for the misunderstanding. smile
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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01/07/2017 22:06
donsoulz,


Why are you including 12K BAP in the sell RP math? I assume, that everyone keeps a 10K BAP balance as matter of course, unless going to cashout, for good. So no matters how they got the BAP (could even be Click Grid/Gaming).

Shouldn't it just be?:

$1 gets you 2400 (3000 right now) plus a tad (9.5%?) more b/c of 10 personal 1% ads.


vs

$1 @ 0.003 gets you 333 RP @ 12 RP each and after 0.95% due to the fee gets you 3796BAP.

(BTW, at 0.0035/12RP, the BAP to RP rate is 3257, so even normally it's better to use the market.)

NOTE: Not sure just how long low 30s or 12 will hold up, but there is def some wiggle room for profit to be had.
 
There is no way the Perosnal 1% ads cover that difference.

Also, I fully advocate buying other products with the savings, if you want to advertise (they are more effective) and use the market to get the better rate. Not only does MTV get the fees, the BAP debt doesn't grow, and the Ad Issues go further and if you buy the other products you give us revenue for Ad Issues and reduce BAP debt.
stra
Traffic Value: $285.59089 Greece
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01/07/2017 22:25
"Shouldn't it just be?:

$1 gets you 2400 (3000 right now) plus a tad (9.5%?) more b/c of 10 personal 1% ads.


vs

$1 @ 0.003 gets you 333 RP @ 12 RP each and after 0.95% due to the fee gets you 3796BAP.
"

Druth8x unless i am missing something importand here, i think that
$1 gets you 2400 (3000 right now) plus a tad (9.5%?) more b/c of 10 personal 1% ads, plus 14 days without BAP fee (only for the first dollar), so

$1 gets you 2400 (3000 right now), plus 1400 BAPs equals 3800 BAPs (4400 right now), plus a tad (9.5%?) more b/c of 10 personal 1% ads.smile
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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01/07/2017 22:48
TRUE, for the 1st dollar ONLY, but just like the BAP min limit, you shouldn't count that as part of the math, unless you are only buying 1 Ad Pack at a time.

Which means, I will still have 8 days left, and the bonus doesn't add 14 only max 14?,

$1 get me 3000 NOW plus 600 = 3600 plus 10% ($0.095) in Personal Ads, might be about break even, and maybe someone will join what I advertise.

However, you can't take that 1400 extra BAP as part of the equation for say $10 worth (140BAP per $1 is not got going to be the difference btwn Market and Bulk Ads)
stra
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01/07/2017 23:00
You are absolutely right.smile
reardoc
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04/07/2017 18:20
I am new to this. please can someone help me. How to go about investing.
Crimson
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04/07/2017 18:23
Depends on your objective here.Long term,short term.Long term shares.Shorter term paidverts adpacks.project funding/promoting mtv products.
reardoc
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05/07/2017 08:34
Thanks Crimson
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