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Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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12/06/2014 09:04
Todays fast tracks have been sent!

MyTrafficValue is now accepting BitCoin:
http://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/news/bitcoin_now_accepted/1.html


PV was up to 11,500 active users last night, earning withing the previous 48hours. So that's good! Seems we're growing again.

Our BAP games have seen over 5.2million plays to date! Amazing:
http://www.paidverts.com/member/games.html

PaidVerts has generated almost $18,000 in revenues for the MTV portfolio in it's first 2 and a bit months online! Pretty impressive; considering the beginning is likely the smallest period of revenue generation by far! ... And as the snowball kicks in, and we get 50-100,000 users buying ad packs each day. Then we'll be turning over 1/3 of the current total PV turnover ($145,000 in ads + $1200 extra banner impressions) to date, daily! That's going to be mega!

Shares are making progress again; up to $0.49 yesterday, and today we'll break $0.50 for sure: http://mytrafficvalue.com/shareholders.html - and if you haven't seen it already, read the "Shareholder Opportunity" here: http://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/questions/the_shares_opportunity.html - this is an awesome opportunity to rocket the growth of PV/MTV and you could easily pocket 500-1000% ROI by the end of the year.

Note: If anyone refers an investor that spends $30-100k buying up shares. I'll personally give you 5,000 of my own shares. ($2500-$5000 in referral commission value!)

Last night Paul added a mini Q&A to the bottom of the paid ads page (only for users that have viewed more than 100 activation ads) ... to highlight why they're only now receiving 2 activation ads daily + to give them the 4 tips to earn more money!

It's a bit of a slow programming week so far; Paul is busy with exams and stuff. So the share split + super user upgrades are still imminent. I'm also pushing for the return of Compound Boxes asap, as that's a really popular + profitable game.

And i've requested a new feature for PaidVerts (medium priority) ; that will allow users to "swap" an ad that either doesn't work. Or they don't want to view for whatever reason. And it'll basically replace that same ad, with another one of the same value - without forfeiting any BAP. As I think that'll make the system far more reliable.

And i'm talking to Rayner about a redesign of MTV. To see if we can freshen up our image, and improve our communication. Let's see what he comes up with; i'll show you long before we think about installing it. Seee what you think / your feedback is.
And Rayner has also finished the graphics for this thing: http://mytrafficvalue.com/drafts/pv/pv-topwindow.jpg - so as soon as the programmers get a minute; we'll install that to the ad view process!

I think that's it. Oh, and Carlos should call Paypal again later today / tomorrow and we'll find out whats going on with these bulk payments.

Jo smile
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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12/06/2014 09:55
Just thinking about shares...
Are there any simple tricks / rules we can impose on the marketplace that would help the share price rise?

Some ideas, for example:

1) We impose a non refundable "bidding fee" of 0.25%. So if you place a bid to buy shares under the market value; it costs you 0.25% irrelevant of whether someone accepts your bid or not... So if you cancel a $100 bid; you've spent $0.25 for nothing.
* And a bonus mini revenue for the portfolio.

2) We only allow you one marketplace listing at a time... So you can't list shares for sale at every value all the way up to infiniti. As that creates un-necessary road blocks.

3) Every week, say Monday or Sunday, we clear the marketplace of all shares listed for sale. And then it can re-populate itself at whatever levels people choose.

That way it has a chance to adjust each week, without old listings clogging up the works. And keeps shareholders active, and continually re-assessing the situation.

...

Any other ideas?
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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12/06/2014 10:09
1) is a great idea! But you could also expand it a bit:
0.25% fee for all shares you list to sell
Increase the fee for bidding to 1%

This would prevent "foolish attempts" at bearish share price manipulation

2) Whilst this would definitely help raise the price - CAN this be done? I mean, isn't it normal for people in any market to put up as many offers as they want? Or perhaps increase the limit to at least 2-5 listings.

3) This would definitely be fun to develop and watch, but again CAN this be done? This looks like share manipulation if done each week and I think that will actually discourage share purchases. Sure, the few who know how to exploit the opportunity will love it, but I don't think the average user will. Besides the cancellations that will happen with the 10x fold increase I don't think this should ever be done. It's a free market and it should stay like that to maintain users' and shareholders' trust.


Another idea:
For every bid/share sale impose a lockout period of X days. For example, you put up some shares for sale and you can't cancel that for a period of 7 days. People would think twice before listing up their shares.
lynxary
Traffic Value: $32,405.21707 Ukraine
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12/06/2014 10:10
It will be very very bad marketplace after such reforms
slimgeld
Traffic Value: $83,353.00715 Netherlands
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12/06/2014 10:13
I don't think it is a good idea to clear the list once a week... I guess the share price will fluctuate more.

Paidverts sells a lot of shares at different prices. If we can only list one sale at the time, how do you manage that?

Bidding fee is a nice option.
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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12/06/2014 11:09
Interesting that you object to what I consider the least objectionable option...

Bidding fee = no problem. Though seeing as that costs money, i'd thought people would object to that.

But deleting all unsold share listings once a week. You don't like. Whats the problem with re-listing your shares for sale each Monday? Doesn't cost you anything. Bids are unaffected... Only takes 10seconds, and you might get a much higher price... And with the 3decimal place value system; you're not going to lose any priority position in the queue.

And only permitting one listing for sale at a time (per user).. Again; as soon as it sells; list more shares for sale at whatever price you want... PaidVerts will operate just the same. Only listing the cheapest shares for sale; and listing the more expensive ones once they sell.
rtrplay
Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden
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12/06/2014 11:10
some restrictions should be applied to PaidVerts ADS
adf.ly and facebook.com etc... don't work at all, i don't understand how they can confirm when they do not see the page only a blank page, still i get paid nothing wrong with that but...

MarketPlace changes could be good for price it depends on how many shares will be on sale...
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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12/06/2014 11:27
Jo IMO those two options wouldn't be bad in themselves, my concern is only if is this "legal"? Ok, limiting the bids to 1 at a time probably wouldn't be such a big deal, traders would just have to adapt to it. But I'm just not sure how people would react to the canceled orders as they might consider it "illegal"/price manipulation. It's probably just a matter of stating it clearly in the terms, but still, I've never seen a share market being reset on a regular basis. Shareholders re-assessing company's worth each week actually sounds like a great idea and would represent their trust in the company more accurately. It might be just a vague concern I thought of immediately, as with tons of people whining about this (even if they are micro shareholders) it could cause a bad worth of mouth. 

MTV always experiments with new things and that's what I love about it. And all these ideas sound awesome to me, I'm just afraid that many might not accept such changes-same was with the debt swaps and they turned out great in the end, it could definitely be the same result with this.
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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12/06/2014 11:37
The same rules apply to everyone. So I don't really see the problem... Every week we declutter the marketplace of old listings. And you can re-list your shares for sale at any time, and for no cost. Put them back at the same price if you like. No problem! The active bids will set the minimum value. And sellers can try for as high as they like.

And these subtle rules, are designed to get sellers a higher price on their shares. Not through manipulation; all we're doing is encouraging people to think once a week; what are their shares actually worth this week. Sorry for making you think! tongue laugh

Maybe we could tie in your idea, when you list your shares for sale; they remain on sale at that price until either Monday, when the marketplace is emptied out / refreshed. Or until they sell. So only list them for sale if you're serious about selling them at that specific price. <<< This rule I can see as contraversial. As you're tying people into things. But the other ideas; I don't see a problem with. As you're giving them more control; not less.
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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12/06/2014 11:56
People always rather whine than think ^_^ I see how the "lockout" period would actually be more limiting than the other 3 ideas haha.

What about sellers incurring the 3% fee (or you sometime mentioned it might be lowered to 1% after the ten-fold) immediately when listing the shares and NOT when the are sold? Basically what I already said 2 posts ago but with that 0.25% I still had in mind that the 3% fee would be in effect on sale. Could be a simple solution to preventing impulse selling.
rtrplay
Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden
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12/06/2014 12:10
but some are daytrading and will sure be near impossible to sell and buy back lower
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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12/06/2014 12:15
The goal is to increase the share price, not worry about daytraders. I like to make some daytrades myself , and I don't care much that being more limited, as long as the price increases it's best for the business. Yeh I know I'm starting to contradict my first post, but it happens when you think about it more thoroughlysmile
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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12/06/2014 12:16
Sellers should pay a fee, bidders shouldn't. Even when they undercut.

You want to stimulate share sales right? Even when people undercut they help you get rid of fire-sellers wink
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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12/06/2014 12:27
Oh and also I think relisting your shares every week makes no sense either.

People will wait until the new server day and bombard the marketplace.
So let's say I wake up 10 minutes later and i'm trying to sell them at the same prize I need to wait until next week if the guy before me put a huge roadblock. (I know that's exactly how the system works now but you don't need to race each other each week to get your shares sold)

Also I think it will create panic amongst the non-reading investors.
They'll get scared when they see their shares didn't sell for a few weeks and start to undercut each other. (great for daytraders, bad for the share-prize).
And it will affect people's thoughts about buying shares because they probably reconsider waiting a week (hoping people read bad news and start fire-selling) instead of buying shares that are too expensive (the way they look at it).
QuilhosKing
Traffic Value: $6,128.74944 Portugal
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12/06/2014 12:28
I think shares are fine and, imo, if you do the things differently like in the stockmarket (excluding day trades, reset the shares listed for sale) only will put away the investors. 

If I have 10K for invest right now, and read you will implement this, I don't even matter in deposit the money here (if the only purpose is buy shares).

No reason to change the things. You are desperete in grow up the share price. We have time and the business grow up. All of us wan't this to grow up. Just do the share split and if everyone sell the shares at 0.08$, it's good. It means they increase 0.03$ per share. Isn't so bad at all. 

The 5$, the 10$ and even the 100$ will come and everyone who bought them now, will be rich by that day. 

Commenting your ideas:

1 - I think this is the best idea you put there. A small fee for bidding it's fine and 0.25% isn't huge at all.

2 - No sense on this. Some traders put more than one listing at a time to influence the market and the resistence of the price.

3 - I don't agree with that. I don't know any market who do that. The price should be the same till someone change it by buying shares or list them bellow.

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The share price are stuck at 0.48$ or 0.49$ because everyone is expecting the share split. Let be realist, we have another feeling (I will use my case) buying 1380 shares with the price of 0.047xx per share than buy 138 shares with the price of 0.47/8 per share.

Work on that fast and I believe the price will grow to 0.47$ or 0.48$ again in 2 months. And it's 10x bigger than nowadays.

Sorry about my english shit!
lynxary
Traffic Value: $32,405.21707 Ukraine
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12/06/2014 12:37
I agree, this market should be kept as it is... Maybe just group listed shares by price? Can effect on it somehow
tupko
Traffic Value: $32,122.18249 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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12/06/2014 13:12
this is just artificial rush of boosting prices of the shares and that's wrong and bad.
why rushing the increase of the share price when the share price is eventually steady going to climb up since we are strong and stable business?
tell me do you see every week reset of the prices on forex market?
or how about BTC-e? you already know bitcoin is highly fluctuating on the market, with your number 3 logic it would be even worse, one week bitcoin would be worth 50$ and another week 1500$
so why not letting the prices here on mtv also rise up steady and naturally not artificially by incorporating some rules.
this should be free market and that determines the correct price for any business
slimgeld
Traffic Value: $83,353.00715 Netherlands
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12/06/2014 13:20
Sellers determine their price on existing listed sales. Now the price is ~ $ 0.50, no one sells their shares for $ 0.25 for example. When the list is cleared, people have nothing to base their price on. The price will go up and down like crazy every week.
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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12/06/2014 13:31
What you seem to be missing is, if the share price increases. PaidVerts will become an overnight success. We've done slow & steady for 3years; it's not a great way forward. Bills pile up, you don't get anywhere, you're stuck dealing with part time staff. Building one tiny product after another. And it's utterly unproductive... I want to build multiple businesses with unlimited potential each. You've seen what one PaidVerts has done for MTV... now imagine we get a dozen subsidiaries online. We'd be worth billions in no time.

And if the share price spikes; PaidVerts issues crazy ads the next day. And then our 11,000 users become 100,000 users in the blink of an eye. Then we have $50k+ per day to properly grow this business. And then its value will go through the roof in an instant.

We have momentum right now. People are happy. Now if we shock them with mega payments / they see huge investors; this business fully explodes and we all get rich. That can happen in literally 1-2 good months... And all it takes is a bit of capital to spike the share price.

Frustrating that so few people fully understand that. And even more frustrating when short sighted, naive and selfish individuals keep undercutting PV's share sales. Rather than letting PV sell its shares; letting PV explode. And then they can sell there shares in a month or two's time for 200-500% what they'll get right now. It won't take long at all.

But whatever... Keep battling on!
Jamal
Traffic Value: $114,601.66988 Spain
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12/06/2014 14:19
Jo leaves the absurd ideas, split shares to be 0.047 and forgetting to everything else
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