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Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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04/04/2014 12:38
Todays fast tracks have been sent!



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What a busy week!
PaidVerts is very busy, lots going on, lots of improvements underway, and issues being fixed. But we're making progress:

1) When creating an ad campaign, we're now forcing users to view their own website for 30seconds before it can be approved.

2) Users can now view up to 5 activation ads per day. Which gives free users a $0.25/day max earning potential... Then after 4 or so days they'll be able to start buying ad campaigns and compounding their earnings.

3) If you want to refer people directly to the registration page, you can use this link: http://paidverts.com/ref/username/register.html - insert your username!

4) We've added a "Report Ad" button to the bottom of the ad view page. So if you have any issues, click on that - and we'll sort you out. And refund any missing BAP as a result of broken ads.

5) We've begun improving the formatting on the copy and paste sections; limiting character counts. Stopping double spacing. And shortly we'll limit the characters to just numbers and letters, and a few key special characters.

And we've got the upgrades mentioned yesterday on the way also; so it's all very busy! But we're learning from and adapting to problems at lightning speed - so this is pretty good. Give us a week or two; and we'll have a really robust system.

We're still working on the PayPal issue, keep getting bounced around from department to department. But apparently in order to sell digital goods, you have to get your account flagged for special approval or something. We're working on that now!

But this is looking good, things are turning around. We've got some good programmers now, as soon as we get some more investment; we can bring those guys, and more on full time. And then we can explode this portfolio.

We'll likely need another week focusing on PV and genreal bugs; and then we'll start getting back to building some games. Our first multiplayer game. I want to add a chatroom facility to MTV/PV... And then we'll start looking into other big ideas as we can finance it!

Jo smile
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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04/04/2014 12:45
And have you noticed in the daily results; our MTV banners are starting to gain a bit of traction. It's still all small money, but they've definitely picked up since PaidVerts has launched.

Hopefully we'll start to see more and more cross conversion, especially to our games, as PV snowballs.
raivisfedins
Traffic Value: $7.44706 Latvia
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04/04/2014 12:51
Still trying figure out what sites i should promote on PaidVerts but overall all looks amazing so far.

Make multi-player human vs human poker without big rake and i will be here 24/7. smile
I also like idea about chatroom.
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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04/04/2014 13:20
A bunch of great improvements coming smile

Jo just an idea, regarding double spacing. Wouldn't the simplest and quickest way be to just strip all spaces when checking advertisers line and user's input text? That way it doesn't matter if it's one, two or however many spaces. Faster and more effective than checking for double spaces imo.
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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04/04/2014 13:25
OK.

And we're waiting on a really important upgrade at PV, where I can issue ads to specific groups of users based on how much BAP they have available. This way we'll be able to make sure everyone earns as close to "evenly" as possible.

So that bigger users will always be issued at least one big ad daily... With the approximate aim that every user achieves a similar % rate of return (via the daily ad issue) -- recycles & the 1% autoads will still be totally random. Which somewhat benefits low value users; as any value ad is a huge part of their overall return (compared to a bigger user)

But that'll definitely be an important upgrade...
As I see several accounts with 4 BAP remaining in them; for which we have to issue an ad of $0.002 in value... However, if this goes to a larger value user; then it's kind of insulting (and looks bad for PV) ; but that tiny value ad is functional for the smallest accounts, as it's the only one they can receive. And what is required to consume the last of their BAP.

Furthermore... (to encourage larger users)
I'm considering offering an upgrade option, where for a weekly/monthly fee; users can "opt out" of low value ads entirely... This will result in them receiving far fewer ads, and basically taking longer to turn their BAP into Cash. However... it will prevent them from having their BAP wasted via low value ads that they have no intention of clicking on.

Then basically... whenever ads are issued or recycled; they'll be issued at random like normal. But low value ones will be issued at random only to an applicable user; the upgraded accounts simply won't be an option for that particular low value ad.

Now the question is... how much should such an upgrade be worth?
How much would you pay per week to set your minimum ad value to $0.01/$0.02/$0.03/$0.04 (or any value really; worst case scenario is you don't receive any ads at all!)
Brainy
Traffic Value: $1,095,877.628 Canada
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04/04/2014 13:50
The upgrade idea is good.

We should think about other benefits upgraded members could get, then we could set the price at like $20-50/month. And you could set a 50% commission on upgrades.

The opportunity for advertising leaders to make big commission would bring tons of new members.

What ot put in this upgrade is the question though.. hahaha.

For the high value ads upgrade, I could pay like $10+/month?

$0.01 and $0.02 are still too low in my opinion though haha.
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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04/04/2014 13:55
Interesting ideas. As far as the extra upgrade goes, that'll definitely be attractive to bigger users. But to put a realistic price on that I'd think you'd have to monitor the average ad distribution for at least a week or two. How many low values ads does a user receive on average(how many 0.005$ ads does a user with X BAP receive per day on average, how many 0.01$... )?

Lets say it's 10 0.005$, 10 0.01$, 15 0.02$, 5 0.04$, 1 0.1$ . That is 0.75$ of total low value ads per day. So if a user wanted to get rid of these daily ads, he'd have to pay, say 30-50% of their value to skip them. So for a month, to receive ads only above 0.1$ he'd have to pay 30x0.3*0.75$ = 6.75$ up to 30x0.5*0.75$ = 11.25$ /month to ignore these ads.

Or if he wanted to skip only ads below 0.04$, which value total at 0.45$/day, then for a month's upgrade he'd have to pay 4.05$ - 6.75$ .

Now that was a very quick example but I'd say that it's a very reasonable price to skip 30 minutes work/day for ~10$ per month isn't it?
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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04/04/2014 14:24
I'm just thinking, with an upgrade option to deliberately skip low value ads... Then we could FLOOD the system with them.

ie. For just $50... it creates 10,000 x $0.005 ads.
And a free user only has to click on 10ads; and they've unlocked an entire activation ad... So a low value user motivated to get started from scratch; gets what they want. And helps PV in the process.

That then gives free users no end of ads to click on. It helps deliver our quoata of clicks. Without pissing off all the big investors who'll complain that their BAP is being wasted by tiny ads.

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But it's a balance...
1) We want loads of ads. As that's the key differentiator between PV and every other PTC. Nowhere else has ads. If we can offer them; then that'll bring in the users.

2) We don't want to drown out big investors with tiny ads... We sorta want to send tiny ads to tiny users; and big ads to big users... But that's not quite as easy as it sounds! Plus you need a bit of variation for the whole thing to work.

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And yes, some upgrade thing could be a good idea. But the question is what are we selling?

- Banner Impressions;
The current ad packs aren't giving enough of those away lol. We've got more traffic than banners. So could toss in loads of those!

- Big Referral Incentive; like MLM. Only available if your account is upgraded and you refer other upgrades.

- Throw in the minimum ad view thing as an OPTIONAL bonus.

- Maybe scrap the current $0.05 recycler pro upgrades; and lump that in with this upgrade instead.

- Give you 100% of your upgrade in BAP. So it technically won't cost you anything if you click on the ads given to you as a result.

- Maybe issue the 10x random 1% ads created with each new campaign purchased; be guaranteed issued to upgraded users.

- Perhaps with each upgrade purchased; it could generate a whole bunch of juicy ads; that get issued to other upgraded users.

- Reduce the 30second timer, to 15.

.... Any other ideas?

Also...
What would be the optimum value for an upgrade? What's affordable, but expensive enough to generate worthwhile income both for PV/MTV and also referrals? How long should it last?
Brainy
Traffic Value: $1,095,877.628 Canada
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04/04/2014 14:33
All awesome ideas Jo.

But how can PV be in profits if the upgraded user gets all his upgrade cost in BAP AND all the benefits he gets with the upgrade..

I think the upgraded members should not get the BAP of the upgraded price?
Or explain to me how PV will benefit from this
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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04/04/2014 14:41
BAP is only earning potential. It doesn't really cost anything.... As PV only issues ads for the revenues it has... Also we can contribute a small amount of each upgrade to the MTV FT250 to help offset that.

But remember, recycles are the key to balancing the books with BAP. Everytime you receive an ad that you don't click on, it gets recycled. Thereby paying 2 members for the price of one.

That's actually where little ads are really useful! As people don't click on them, choosing to forfeit the return (which to them is only $0.005 -- who cares!) But for the system as a whole; that adds up to a fortune!

10,000 * $0.005 ads = $50
Let's say nobody clicks on them. And they get recycled 25x (and then fail). 25x50 = $1250 of debt (2.5million BAP) removed from the system.

And then with that $50 that "failed"; we can re-issue it as 1x $50 ad if we want. And it will remove another 100,000BAP plus make one user very happy!

So one $50 bit of cash; removes $1300 worth of debt in this example. Those irrelevant sums of money are hugely valuable across tens/hundreds of thousands of users.
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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04/04/2014 15:02
All valid ideas, except scrap the recycler pro upgrade. Recycler pro upgrade benefits the smaller users more than in does the bigger ones. Simply because of most recycled ads are 0.005-0.02$ in value,the big users won't bother with clicking those. I think the recycler pro is great as it is - it gives the small active members a chance to earn more, and pick up the small ads big users don't have time to click on.

Also the 30 to 15 sec reduction is a double-edged sword. Wouldn't that sort of hurt the advertising value? I mean the bigger the value of an add, the "more worth" the receiving user is. And THAT is the power of this whole BAP system, where a 1$ ad pack can get you views from users who are potentially worth 1000$'s. So reducing the viewing time of the most desired target audience doesn't sound like a good idea to me( in terms of advertising value of course).

Out of all those ideas I like the affiliate commission, say 50%, and the "juicy ads" that go only to other upgraded users the most.

Perhaps a few other ideas:
- reduced deposit/withdrawal fees?
- I'm not sure if you'll like this one, but what about random referrals for upgraded users? Say that 50% of no-sponsor signups get divided between the upgraded users?
- If a user is upgraded it should show so in their public profile - another targeting option
- Remember forum signatures idea? Give this to upgraded users.
- participation in random weekly/monthly competition where 10% of all upgrade fees constitues X rewards

I think 1 month sub would be the best, price ranging from 20-50$, based on what price upwards you're willing to receive ads.
colasander
Traffic Value: $386,747.05153 Netherlands
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04/04/2014 15:11
Is it possible to view some kind of list with all the BAP's of every member?
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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04/04/2014 15:12
Upgrade Plan - Proposal 1

$90 upgrade fee...
$10 Referral, if upline is not upgraded!
$30 Referral, if upline is upgraded!

$10 MTV
$20 Jackpot Ad Prize Pool (only if referral is not upgraded)

--- $40 consumed, one way or another ---

$50 ... creates 50x $1.00 ads - issued & recycled amongst upgraded users


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Benefits: (Lasts 7 days)

- 180,000 BAP ($90 worth of paid ads will be issued to you ASAP)
- 100,000x Banner Impressions (125)
- 10,000x Banner Impressions (728)
- All recycled ads are issued to upgraded users (if non available, or non are set to receive a given low value ad; then it'll be recycled to a random non-upgraded member)
- Set Filter On Your Account; to only receive ads above $____ (Change at any time)
- Ad view timer reduces to 15 seconds
- The 10x 1% random ads, created with every new campaign, are directed to upgraded users.

- Free entry to the Jackpot Ad Prize Pool;
Once per server week (admin will initiate when there is a prize fund worth issuing) one ad is created and issued to one random upgraded user (with sufficient BAP); totalling the entire available prize fund. If there is no user that has sufficient BAP to accept it; the pool will roll over to the next draw!

So if 10 users upgrade without a referral. That will be a $200 ad created as the prize. Issued to the winner (provided he has BAP); with the standard 18hour timer. TO be recycled or binned thereafter depending if there is anyone who can receive it.

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Feedback!
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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04/04/2014 15:14
And colasander...
Maybe we could publish the BAP list - I have it in my admin area... Along with the Active Ad campaigns list (summary).

And/or we could expand the user profiles; to display that information.
blaxbla
Traffic Value: $27,232.49886 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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04/04/2014 15:37
Maybe that BAP info could be another future targeting option?
rtrplay
Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden
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04/04/2014 16:16
i have seen a problem adding a new campaign, a page containing a promotion video, it will not load anything, totally blank, page should be loading the video but the script does not start

and i also seen another campaign blank that contains a script that should loads some information including a registration form

i thought it was a tempoary error then, so i not remember the campaign id but if i spot it again i will report it

does paidverts prevent scripting?
emmanuel322
Traffic Value: $40,205.23673 United States
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04/04/2014 16:30
Pistas rápidas de hoy han sido enviado !

http://www.paidverts.com/member/paid_ads_interaction_42518.html

MyTrafficValue está aceptando BitCoin :
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Por una concurrida semana !
PaidVerts está muy ocupado , mucho que hacer , un montón de mejoras en marcha, y las cuestiones que se fija . Pero estamos haciendo progresos :

1 ) Al crear una campaña publicitaria , ahora estamos obligando a los usuarios a ver su propio sitio web durante 30 segundos antes de que pueda ser aprobada.

2 ) Los usuarios pueden ver hasta 5 anuncios de activación por día. ¿Qué ofrece a los usuarios gratis un máximo potencial de ingresos $ 0.25/day ... Luego, después de 4 días o así ellos podrán comenzar a comprar campañas publicitarias y composición de sus ingresos .

3 ) Si usted quiere referir a las personas directamente a la página de registro , puede utilizar este enlace: http://paidverts.com/ref/username/register.html - inserte su nombre de usuario ?

4 ) Hemos añadido un botón " Denunciar aviso " a la parte inferior de la página de vista ad . Así que si usted tiene algún problema , haga clic en eso - y vamos a ordenar a cabo. Y devolveremos el BAP por desaparecidas a raíz de los anuncios rotos.

5 ) Hemos empezado a mejorar el formato de las secciones de copiar y pegar ; limitando el carácter cuenta . Detener a doble espacio . Y en breve nos limitaremos a los personajes sólo números y letras, y algunos caracteres especiales clave.

Y tenemos las mejoras mencionadas ayer en el camino también ; así que todo está muy ocupado! Pero estamos aprendiendo de y la adaptación a los problemas a gran velocidad - así que esto es bastante bueno. Danos una o dos semanas ; y vamos a tener un sistema muy robusto.

Todavía estamos trabajando en el tema de PayPal, seguimos siendo rebotado alrededor de departamento en departamento . Pero, al parecer con el fin de vender productos digitales , usted tiene que obtener su cuenta caído en una aprobación especial o algo así. Estamos trabajando en eso ahora!

Pero esto se ve bien , las cosas están cambiando . Tenemos algunos buenos programadores ahora , tan pronto como consigamos algo más de la inversión; podemos llevar a los chicos , y más a tiempo completo. Y luego podemos explotar esta cartera.

Probablemente necesitaremos una semana centrada en PV y bichos genreal ; y luego vamos a empezar a volver a la construcción de algunos juegos. Nuestro primer juego multijugador. Quiero añadir una instalación de sala de chat para MTV / PV ... Y luego vamos a empezar a buscar en otras grandes ideas como podemos financiarlo !

Jo smile
dbinghamjr
Traffic Value: $68.52568 United States
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04/04/2014 17:50
@rtrplay,

Were you directly linking to YouTube? Because, Google doesn't allow of their sites to load inside iframes.
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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04/04/2014 17:54
We've just uploaded the code regarding this. From Paul:

I've just improved even more our anti frame breaker grin
it's now possible to view videos, load flash etc inside the frame smile

and if the page breaks the frame it just won't load there, will be blank page, but timer should be fine
rtrplay
Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden
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04/04/2014 17:57
@dbinghamjr

youtube supports embedded videos if you add this line
/embed/?list=PLAYLIST ID (it works for video ID without ?list=)
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