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MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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02/03/2019 17:40
During the past 3 days Paidverts has removed 10.3m BAP debt with games alone!

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@Jordy: Based on your list of multi-accounts we were able to ban 272 accounts wink
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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02/03/2019 18:10
@MarcdeKoning 


That was amazing ! 
Revoltchka
Traffic Value: $141.80329 Aruba
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02/03/2019 19:52
Great news that (MTV and PV owners are starting their own PTC site).I'm using more than 1 PTC site's myself.

But honestly I would want PTCShare to really stand out from the crowd.Not the same just like all those 99% same PTC's out there who would just go scam in a few months to in a year or two.

I would like if possible for MarcdeKoning and his team to bring new features and stuff to the PTC world in itself,now that would be a whole new ball game maybe.To bring quality stuff in.

Just a question to MarcdeKoning,would you guys bring or implement (RR or those bot refs in PTCShare also or there would be only DR?
I'm curious to know about this.(Since most people know that in allot of PTC site's including Neobux that all RR are bots probably managed and could be controlled by Admin.

Also would there be like Membership package/s or so with some benefits to it to help the user or advertiser to earn more money maybe?
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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02/03/2019 20:35
No RR.

Yes Membership but notatfirst/not until they can make something they feel will have a lot of buyers, but still be profitable to the site.

The code is going to be much more modern and thus will allow for different things out there, ofc one has to have the idea and a ways to implement it, but with PV code things have been limited,
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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02/03/2019 20:51
@revolt: It's simply an improved/simplified version of Paidverts, but with a ton of additional features we're copying from other successful platforms.
Rented referrals are indeed often just a scam and we won't support such a feature.
Vixthra
Traffic Value: $2,179.00664 Slovenia
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02/03/2019 22:59
Have you ever considered a referral spillover, from those signed without one, to the general population? Or you could have something like the premium listings on the monitor, so that people could bid to be getting the un-referred referrals for a certain time period (I think that was a long long time ago discussed in relation to PV/MTV)?
It would bring less referraly-direct profit to the program directly, but it might spice up the user base (quite a bit?).
alva5763
Traffic Value: $264.40909 Turkey
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03/03/2019 06:19
If we use bot RR we will be seen as a scam site so agree definitely no bot RR.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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03/03/2019 07:42
You guys can do the math but people go mad for random referrals and will usually overpay for them. It's one of the irrational things people are willing to pay for in our industry. So it would probably be easy for you to check and see how much you make from those referrals that join with no upline. Once you quantify that you can determine if you want to sell for around that price or just a bit lower so as not to discourage people. (ROI 3 - 6 months?)

One thing to consider is the intangibles. If someone sees their referral base growing, they are more likely to stay active since there is 'free' money for them
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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03/03/2019 09:22
more multi accounts ?
its not always that they are referrals of each other but it looks like they are using the same IP's 
Isnt there a tool built in that mainly checks on accounts using the same Ip's ?

facroun14 = banned
facroun9 = not banned
facroun26=not banned

ahmedkamal90900
Ahmedkamal90900 
Kamal2000230230 

bunia1983
bunia1987
bunia2019
zabunia1983

farjanapopy926
farjanapopy973
popyfarjana364
popyfarjana226
farjanayasmin
popfarjana359
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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03/03/2019 10:03
I never understood the business move for rented referrals.
We can either keep them ourselves and get the full amount OR we sell it either too expensive (People get unhappy, lose money and your website gets bad ratings) or for too little and we could have simply kept the full amount for ourselves and saved a ton of time and money on programming..
totoer008
Traffic Value: $1,720.85798 France
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03/03/2019 11:35
Well I guess is that although you don’t get the full money from those potential referrals giving referais for a decent prices makes them willing to promote and thus bring more people. Either way, I personally don’t care if we implement this feature.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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03/03/2019 14:28
It's human nature

people want slaves and will pay good money to have themgrin
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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03/03/2019 15:10
We've now had a small decline in active users due to the amount of multi accounts we're banning.
il051
Traffic Value: $14,823.02214 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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03/03/2019 22:25
Actually, I've just noticed that one of those fake accounts that I've been reporting for few months got his cashout.
His username is Dedibial1z0 and if you search for usernames with last three letters "1z0" or "zb0" you'll see hundreds of them and they all come from Russia. I keep seeing them on daily basis on clickgrid's list of latest winners, but I just don't have will anymore to write down all those usernames every single day. Is there really no possibility that you block these multi accounts even before they are created (block that IP address or block usernames with specific suffix)?
Because I can clearly recognize those fake usernames, for instance many of them end with "s0" or "al1" or "50" or "z3" or "z8" etc. I repeat, they are all from Russian IPs, all of them without any investment and all of them with Portfolio account as their referrer.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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03/03/2019 22:38
multi accounts and cheating always have been a problem and definately would be worth it to spend programming time on. Im happy that i could help to find some of those accounts in the past days but it should be catched before i can see it. Paidverts always allowed to have more then 1 account per household as long as they are different people. It can be hard to change that policy now but it would be better to Ban those accounts and let them come with proof before they can be put on the whitelist.

I hope that PTCshare will have better security and hope they allow only 1 account per household as well.
Revoltchka
Traffic Value: $141.80329 Aruba
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04/03/2019 01:04
@MarcdeKoning well apparently with RR and expensive upgrade packages that's how the Neobux owner made allot of profit/money with,(but I think it's mostly the RR bots that made him more profit) because you can rent those refs in different quantities which costs money and they'll be available for you for 30 days with nothing added.But if you want to extend their days etc you gotta pay more again which costs more money.And not only that,if a RR doesn't click for a few days etc you can manual recycle it/them which again cost money to do so,and you can use auto renewal.But I would have to agree and say that they are 100% bots which can be controlled through scripting.Oh and btw 99% of PTC's don't offer to sell DR because they are mostly more active and can cost them money than RR or bot refs which make more money for them.


If you compare DR with RR there's a huge difference hahaha.grinwink


Me personally would like buying/renting DR from others though.Why not make a business with DR for those that can't spend money to get DR? (just my humble opinion about this) but @MarcdeKoning you weren't wrong about what you said about the refs in the above post unless you wanna or can make business with them or something.
Columbine
Traffic Value: $53,683.67577 Germany
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04/03/2019 06:09
@jordy186

All of us were supposed to share a computer with the same IP address. It was only important to have different payment processors.
WL8
Traffic Value: $182.78047 Poland
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04/03/2019 14:05
Seems like BAP adds for group 6 got stuck.
vicura
Traffic Value: $4,969.3683 Spain
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04/03/2019 14:19
I like revoltchka idea, opening a market to sell referrals with a %comission for MTV. That could boost people's attitude when they see their balance grow. Also people who gets a lot of referrals but dont have time to pay attention to them, could sell to people that wanna pay them attention and also getting money. I think its a win/win for all.

Also, I think sites like PV and another ptcs are for certain countries (asia, southamerica, eastern Europe...). In my case (Spain) I have about 150 referrals, 50 of them I knownthem personally and for 2 years now, any of the 150 are active. I'm not even active in PV neither since the reward for time you get is kinda negligible.
Even if I was in top groups (investing some thousand dollars) to get $60 pure profit is kinda negligible, I would earn that by working 4-5h, while all the time that would take me to look the ads, switch on/off computer and be aware of the "news" would be kinda the same.

But for instance, $60 for another countries can even be half salary, and I think that should be the focus of the business (if it's not already it).
What I've said might be obvious and probably it's how it has been working lately, but found interesting the fact I hace 0/150 active DR
klikdiva
Traffic Value: $576.2635 Honduras
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04/03/2019 15:29
@Slosumo, any other admin, you might want to check cron, at least my group did not receive ads today
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