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druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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19/08/2017 14:28
I see no real gap in confirmed requests. Maybe 7-14hrs ago.

However, someone has JUST confirmed.

Have you checked your spam folder?
HomerSimpson
Traffic Value: $9,308.60765 Germany
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19/08/2017 14:48
I joined Paidverts in Summer 2014, where you couldn't go anywhere without being spammed full with advertisements for Paidverts. As I didn't like to get 100s of ads worth a few pips, it didn't last long until I moved entirely to MyTrafficValue, because especially the Shares looked a lot more promising.

A lot happened after this, good and bad; money was earned and lost.
But then Jo lost his motivation for his project and started to almost destroy it. Thankfully the company is legally owned by Carlos and he gave a lot of power and accesses to employers who still cared about MTV and who still care about, in name especially slosumo, without whom MTV wouldn't be, what it is today.

So in agreement with the community, Marc overtook the position as the CEO of MTV and got the task to clear up the mess, Jo left behind. This site still exists, which is proof, that Marc didn't fail.

Still, the best times for MTV were spring/summer 2014 and it is questionable if we will ever see times like this again. 
Even if the main site looks still the same, like years ago, somehow the Future Business Group isn't anymore what it used to be.

But let us be true: This company is at its bottom.
-If I understand it right a lot of people will just work for MTV until end of this month
-For most Networker, this is already a sunken ship
-BMF: Much money lost thanks to hacks, questionable when it will earn profits (But why isn't it listed at okchanger and bestchange?)
-PPMG/PBG: niche sites, both hard to promote, as PM user favor to gamble their money in HYIPs and there are a lot of BTC Casinos who just offer more
-CoinFlipEvolved: Not worth it to be active there for a few BAP and all the click bots don't give worthy traffic 
(I still don't understand why there is no gambling version of this, Investor-backed like a lot of BTC dice games and just with a 1.90 payout ratio, but a 5% payback every 100 games. Additionally, with the actual design, it would stick out a lot from the actual dice games, who all look like the same)
-Warclicks: In the beginning funny, but as someone wrote in the German chat; "The game is boring, because everything repeats itself very fast."
-Sumoroll: How do the numbers look like? I like the game and play it at least once a day, with watching as many videos as possible. This could be a great, but quite, cash maker, we just have to start to promote it as aggressively as daniel promoted his alien bitcoin app....
-MyMatrix: You can say what you want, this matrix failed, is dead and in the end, it just created additional debts,
two last ideas to gather some extra money here: 
1. add a single line matrix or maybe one line per level 
2. start selling licenses of the script

Paidverts:
As I stated in the beginning, I left PV as an active user soon after joining it (to be true: thankfully).
Since then I'm just sometimes clicking the daily free BAP Ads, clicking at the adgrid and gamble there.
Over the years I already tried to start with PTCs a few times. Like most people, I failed every time and still have no clue how to make a profit with rented referrals.
But then there is Paidverts. Formally an unusual revshare/way to collect additional Money for the MTV FTQ, Marc managed to build it into a self-sustainable PTC platform, where you can build up your account and earn money (If you don't gamble it away grin) without the rented referral shit.
I was very sceptical about this at the beginning, because normally it was in the last years the other way around: traditional PTCs wanted to earn more and started to become revshares and now paidverts wants to get from a revshare to a PTC.....
I am still skeptical, but I think I start to see the bigger picture and I start to like, what I see...
I decided to become an active user again and I'm interested to see what the future will bring us.

With this, I'm done reviewing the past and the actual situation,
from my point of view.
A lot of things got better, a lot of things got worse.

The beautiful creature of a phoenix rises from his own ash.
I do not believe MTV is like a Phoenix. I know MTV is like a Phoenix.

Maybe most of us can't do much to support MTV still.
But if we all just give 1% to support MTV,
it will be enough to feed the Phoenix.

Before the end:
Marc! Don't let yourself go down!
You made a bet to go full in MTV,
the bet isn't lost yet
and I don't think you/we will lose!

Sincerely
Homer
preetam786
Traffic Value: $93.71407 India
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19/08/2017 15:55
I tried to withraw may be 5 times and never got confirmation link. 
bharathpgm
Traffic Value: $22.23719 India
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19/08/2017 16:25
vecors - Forum moderator

i checked now also still the stp status is approved.. and i didn't get any refund(revoke my fund) from your side.. yeah i deleted that pending ad campaigns...

i will attach the proof link below with this text.. kindly review it.. 
my transaction details which shows apporved on july 12th...
https://postimg.org/image/q48jkjqz9/

its invidual transaction details.. 
https://postimg.org/image/9i2h3k5u7/


 check out and revoke my transaction.. 
freak300
Traffic Value: $56,564.16117 Germany
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19/08/2017 18:05
I think what is super important though is to be realistic. I think we are all dreaming (I certainly have) from MTV becoming this super big company that might one day even happen. On another level though it probably won't happen. Why? Because just because it can be done doesn't mean it will be done. 

It is not that we don't have enough products but we don't sell them in a way that actually creates enough money. PPMG has been a great example of what can be done but I also think that the reason it worked so well was because we found a niche that wanted the particular product we provided. Marketing it is good but it is not just the only thing we should do. If you look at Tesla they never really marketed their cars but yet everyone knows them and a lot of people that have the money buy one.

All this is not to say that that we don't have the potential to do this stuff but that for some reason the real profitability of most products is never reached. You don't need that much marketing to make a product successful but you need the right audience and the right long term strategy and customer base. 

That being said I would like to touch on BMF for instance. We do have the product that works, we have people that use it but at the same time I am not surprised that it doesn't grow much. There are just too few exchange pairs. If we had PayPal (and I know we all hate PayPal) and you could exchange PayPal without having to create an account that would probably tap into a niche that is hungry. What I am saying is that we don't offer anything new. Why would someone prefer our exchanger over someone else's. I bet most people that use BMF are MTV users at the same time.

Now obviously a lot of the exchanges can't be done because we are not legal (if I remember right). The legality is an issue that I have personally been interested in for a while and I think we all have been but I think it takes too long. Now I understand the debt we have is the major problem with this and I also understand that people want to be repaid. 

Now what I want to say here is this: it might sound good to be legal and it makes absolute sense to do so but if that is really the problem I don't understand why we can't just open a small company for a few hundred dollars that we could use to register the casino and so on and then later transform it into another company that then also has shares and so on? 
I assume though that even though legality is a goal to strive for it still doesn't mean we will be more successful. Who said that? Why do we have to be legal to sell stuff? For the most part we don't have to be.

Also another thing I don't understand is why we don't venture into other areas that don't need a lot of investments and development time but could still make us a lot of money? Why don't we open an commerce store or sell other physical products professionally. There are pro's out there that literally started with nothing and made hundreds of thousands of $ just using third party services like Shopify and so on. A lot of them offer private consulting and help others to achieve the same. It might cost $2k to start this but I have seen others get crazy results super fast as a result of being mentored by some of these guys.

All I am saying is that instead of wasting cash on stuff that we don't need why don't we focus on ways to make money right now that work and that others have already taken and pay off our debts? Do we really get out of where we are at right now or will we be stuck in the same place a year from now? 

This is not to criticise anyone. All I am saying is that even though I have supported MTV for a very long time I am getting nervous and a lot of others do as well. I always hoped that MTV could in a few years provide some additional income on the side but it seems to me that it is still a sinking ship. That might not be positive but at the same time being overly positive might also be a blind fold to what is really going on. 

I think that the share market is a great example of what is happening. Most people think the shares will go up but I think they actually won't. Why would they? Yeah our company might be making money but we can't even cover our bills completely, so why is the company even worth something? Now obviously we have healthy parts of our business like PPMG that are profitable. So what I am thinking of is this: what are the unhealthy parts that cost us more than they make us and how can we get rid of them? 

Why do people even invest in the first place, why would they? Because for a lot of us there is hope. 

I just think and this is in no way an offence that it is too much for the team to manage. I think that PPMG was a great example of how things can work if there is just enough attention directed to it but I think that the more products we have the less focused attention can be given to each product and it results in us losing more that we could gain. 

That being said I do believe that this business needs more control and a lot more attention from an economical point of view than it has right now. The fact that we don't even know or aren't told how much money BMF makes or how much money the marketing campaign for PPBG has earned us shows me some level of either unprofessionalism or trying to hide something. Does the money that BMF makes even cover the server costs that are paid to run it? I think it is time to cut out the unprofitable parts of the business because once that is done our business will probably have quite a bit of more income than we think it has right now.

Now I am personally not going to keep my shares for much longer because I don't really see a betterment in the near future and I am in the process of building my own business so I will need my money for that. I might come back in the future but by now I am not sure if I will. 

I still hope that MTV will grow into what we all hope it to be but I am just no longer going to hope for it to happen under the circumstances this business is in because it honestly is not realistic. This is not me bashing anyone this is me just be realistic and honest and saying the thing that most people don't want to hear but that needs to be said.
Malik7
Traffic Value: $18.78983 Pakistan
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19/08/2017 18:26
Bharat,
U bought bulk ads on 17 july then why are you showing transaction of 12th july?
If u bought it with that deposit,it should be approved instantly as the money was already in pv
baconlover
Traffic Value: $174.1098 United States
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19/08/2017 18:50
Marc,

What programming language do you use for the games?
Crimson
Traffic Value: $1,850.32389 Romania
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19/08/2017 21:11
Regarding BmF,i never understood why we cant make a new legal,separate small company and add all curency pairs (payza, stp).It's a simple solution,really,one that we do not want/know to use?
gugakip
Traffic Value: $739.34329 Belgium
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19/08/2017 21:41
@Baconlover, all of MTV is PHP I believe with some front end stuff of course. 
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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19/08/2017 22:25
freak300,

You stated you probably aren't going to keep your shares (RP's) anymore for much longer.


This used to be quite a statement from you, but now you don't even have 100K RP, that is in German Dollars not that much.

Can you elaborate, cause I seem to be missing something?


I hope you aren't trying to manipulate the market to make the prices bottom out even further, so you can swoop in and get back to the millions of RP you have. Well, actually, I do kind of hope that is the case, less RP in foolish hands the better chance less users selling so low as the longer term vision holders limit the availaibility of cheap RP.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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19/08/2017 23:24
I think one of the best investments the site can make right now is in BAPs. At least until the share and BAP price turns around. If we were to take excess cash. Even if it were a few hundred dollars per day. Buy up shares and then exchange them for BAP, we would be doubling our money at a minimum right now.

I have been doing this but I don't have the cash flow to make a real difference.

What we do with the BAP is key of course. Do we cancel them or hold them for later? I would think cancelling them might be the best since we have bought them for 50 cents on the dollar
felibaudino
Traffic Value: $770.95545 Argentina
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19/08/2017 23:49
Hey freak, I will answer all the points you have stated in your post.

To begin with, I would like to answer your doubts regarding cutting costs, since this is something that might help anyone else. Costs have been cutted a lot since Marc took over, and currently costs are about 500/site monthly, so as you can see there isn´t too much to be cutted since taking them down would be non-sense.

Another point is BMF and adding Paypal, as you might know since it is no new news, Paypal´s terms don´t allow any online earning site or cryptocurrency related site to work with them, so it is impossible to work with them. Yes, it is a great addition but it is something that can´t be achieved.

You also talked about legality, changing the casino to a new business still doesn't mean it's legal.
The legality comes by licensing it, which comes at a cost that can run up to $100.000,-/year.

You then mentioned about opening us to new markets in order to bring new money, this at first got me confused since you were previously talking about cutting extra costs, but I understand what you are trying to say. It would be kind of non sense to change all what we have been working for this last years and move into a new area that is no related to our business, or what kind of physical products do you think that could be sold and related to what we aim for?

And I left this point for the end since it is related to Tesla, a company which I love, actually I love Elon Musk and all what he is doing for the planet. You mentioned that marketing isn´t everything we need, I know it isn´t all that is needed since there are other aspects needed, but it is really important to have a good marketing, and I dare to call it myself as a pillar of any business.
If you have made a research on Tesla you can find its master plan which was released by Elon and it consists on basically creating a high class car in order for it to be attractive for people that has a good economic situation, the profit of the sales would be used to develop a mid class car, and then this car sales profits would be used to create a low class vehicle which is "accessible" to everybody.
There was a lot of marketing done on this plan, Tesla is in mouth of everybody because of the marketing, a car that was unreacheable for the common people while rich people were driving it made people want to have one even more. What I'm trying to point here is that Marketing is a really important thing of the business.
freak300
Traffic Value: $56,564.16117 Germany
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20/08/2017 08:13
@druth8x yes I have sold most of my stake over the last few months. My intention is not to manipulate the market though because I don't really play that game much anyhow. Let me be very honest: even though I like the effort the team has put into this business I still don't see why people should invest. When you really look at it how can you even invest? There is only RP's that consistently drop in value and the funding of certain products that has been done in the past didn't even yet pay us our investment back. 


We shouldn't forget that this business is exactly that: a business
Most of us have been dreaming way too big for way too long but what has actually happened of what we dreamed of? Do we even have a clear business plan of what will be achieved? Do we even inform every investor about what happened to their investment or does the management maybe not even know everything themselves? 

This is not to bash anyone but this is just me asking real questions and even though I get some answers I don't get the full answer. We have all been asking a lot of questions but there is still not enough clarity. Marc and the team have been working for a long time, given a lot but yet if we are honest have they and we been rewarded accordingly?


A reason why I will sell the rest of my stock is because it simply isn't worth keeping it. What do you think will happen? There are thousands of seller and probably less than 100 buyers. Everyone says we are undervalued but I don't actually understand why that should be the case. Our company has 500 million shares. It is not different than buying a penny stock. The only difference is that our expectations are too high .


Also the legalisation part is obviously necessary for some things but will we really make more money once we are legal or is this just an excuse in a way? If we can't get a positive return on investments we made now how does legality change that?


Also I would like to touch on a few points that felibaudino has mentioned:


As far as the costs for each site goes, that is good to hear. As we all know it is not the only cost though. Could you please also tell us the approx. monthly costs in general right now and after we let go of the workers? How much more money will we expect to make?


As far as legalising the casino goes: I understand that we need a license to do so but if it is really $100k a year that is a lot and I am not really sure how we are supposed to get the money, Also what I am missing as well is that it seems to me that the casino seems to be the only product that is talked about? That is why I mentioned going into e-commerce. My goal here is not to throw away the old business but to supplement it. A lot of those businesses are drop shipping and using social media marketing to sell the products or marketing print on demand products using sites like Amazon merch and using the Amazon platform to sell them. 


The reason I mention this stuff is because you don't necessarily need a ton of money to get this started but can be scaled fast and easily as the platforms are already in place and the training can be provided by the right mentors. 
siddartha149
Traffic Value: $683.06885 India
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20/08/2017 12:51
Frankly speaking I have also lost hopes with MTV. We have been struggling for way too long, and it leads us no where. Sometimes when we get good profits, then we get hacked, or some players get lucky. Things are just not working. People say marketing will help, but we did that a lot 2 years back. Places were being spammed with MTV links, but nothing happened. It might hurt some people very badly, but our management failed at it's work. It's easy to put the blame on members, that they did not market, but difficult to say that yes we were not efficient. The only thing I was impressed was with domingox working on Bitcointalk to promote that casino. It worked well. Our PV sucks, no doubt. I don't know how much things will get better with the relaunch. As I suggested before, and I will suggest again, the best thing we can do is to add the coins which have communities built around them. For example, steem has a big community built around it. If u tell them that our casinos accept steem and pay in steem, then they will flock in hundreds or even thousands to our casinos. The reason being that no other site would have so many games as ours. Tel them u r offering steem for just viewing ads, they will surely come here. Tell them u have investment options with steem, they will surely pay attention. And this has to be done with many coins, especially the ones which are popular but still don't have many applications built around them. I think it's the best thing to do in this scenario. Marc already knows details about the various coins. All we need to do is select the most promising coins, add them here and promote them in their communities, which can be easily done via Bitcointalk. If you want to add steem to ur sites, then let me know. I can talk to some guys, write a post about it and hit it in hot or trending section. I can do till that far. And probably there are more ppl here, who can do this with other coins as well. Think about it.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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20/08/2017 14:33
I have not failed, I have done a lot more than most would, sadly there are a number of things I can not talk about, but will become evident in the future.
I have my reasons.
sami92
Traffic Value: $6,536.65854 Bulgaria
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20/08/2017 14:47
Would you say when the changes will take effect in PV ?
siddartha149
Traffic Value: $683.06885 India
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20/08/2017 14:51
There is not an ounce of doubt that u and your team has been working hard and is working hard. But in the end, results are what matter. And clearly you failed at it. I am not demotivating you, but this is the truth Marc. Just suppose you were working in a legit company as a CEO. How long could you have survived as a CEO there with such results?
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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20/08/2017 14:53
I repeat: I did not fail.
siddartha149
Traffic Value: $683.06885 India
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20/08/2017 14:56
Well, if you are saying with such impact, then I take my words back. Maybe there was something that reversed your success. I apologize for my previous post.
il051
Traffic Value: $14,823.02214 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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20/08/2017 15:26
Although I could agree with some comments/suggestions/complaints that were written before my post, I know that just to have a great idea is not enough. In fact, it's almost nothing.
I'm running a small business for 10 years already, it's simple and easy job, although not in IT realm. I knew I had good idea which should work like a charm, but when I started transforming it into reality - well, the reality kicked me in my balls quite hard. So many obstacles, so many problems that you simply couldn't predict and I didn't have any kind of control over them. I finally made it after few months of struggle and now it's really working like a charm.
Therefore I can imagine what Marc and his team is going through all this time. There are just some things that keep preventing you from making your ideas come true, but when/if you succeed, it becomes quite easy to maintain it.
If anyone can make this business working, it's Marc with his enthusiasm and hard work. People who don't run their own business simply can't comprehend that.
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