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07/02/2018 22:49
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There are a few things to report and a few things I would like to discuss with you.

First of all I am guessing many of you have already noticed that our results have severely dropped since late December and until now haven´t picked up yet.
Now even though this happens every year until mid February, this time there is additional pressure on those results due to players being incredibly lucky in our casino´s.

MTV Casino results:
Aug - 17 $14,672.91
Sep - 17 $10,117.26
Oct - 17 $14,378.38
Nov - 17 $16,402.99
Dec - 17 $20,201.53
Jan - 18 $8,715.82
Feb - 18 -$1,528.27


PPMG results:
Aug - 17 $7,197.63
Sep - 17 $3,683.02
Oct - 17 $10,247.46
Nov - 17 $1,986.68
Dec - 17 $6,003.58
Jan - 18 $4,426.84
Feb - 18 -$95.45


A few days ago it looked like their luck was shifting, but then at the end of the day our result dropped back down from about $3000 up to $100 negative.
It´s only a matter of time until it happens, but until then the main income comes from Paidverts, which is the next topic.

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Paidverts, it´s proving to be very healthy.
With your cooperative operation to bring more people to Paidverts you are slowly but surely improving its results for the better and delivering us more users.
These things take time and effort, but we see a steady increase.
It is in our and your best interest to keep these new users content and there are a few things that we have been discussing today to achieve just that.

First of all we´re bringing back some version of the micro ad pack for new users.
We´re going to give them a micro ad pack on the very first day that they join, as an experiment to see if it improves retention in any way.

It is a small change and ultimately I would like to increase these number of days of micro ad packs, but if we would go for a 7 day period we would decrease the ad issue by about 20% based on today´s stats of new users per day.
This micro ad pack will not use any BAP and will be an instant delivery to new accounts.

Second of all, we are currently implementing a "we miss you email", which is long overdue.

After 3, 10 and 30 days of inactivity users will get a "we miss you"-email.
Some might find it annoying, but a user that doesn´t use our website is of no value to the platform and its referrer and we might increase our retention rate by the use of these emails, which is worth the annoyance of a few in my honest opinion.

Third, we are discussing a new advertising option which allows advertisers to just target the new users that joined during the past 30 days so they will have a constant flow of new users to reach.

Fourth, we would like to have your opinion on the following.
Please vote if you take part in the Paidverts advertising coop.

Which of the following options would you prefer to apply to the pool of the advertising ad issue:

-Once any of your new referrals (signed up during the past 7 days) clicks 100 ads within that week you get a 7 day access to the advertisers ad issue from the moment they click their 100th ad

-We extend the period in which your referrals can click 100+ ads for you to apply to the pool from 7 to 14 days (you will get access from the moment they finish their 100th ad until the 14th day after their sign up)

-We decrease the requirement from 100 ads to 25 ads to qualify for the pool.
Please keep in mind that this option will heavily decrease the amount you are going to get from the ad issue as there will be far more people that will qualify for the pool using these conditions.


Either pick one of the 3 or come up with another option, we´re open to discuss.


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Today I will keep it short and sweet as I would like to start a discussion about the improvements you can think of to improve Paidverts, realistically speaking.
There have been a few things we spotted on the forum that we could use and have led us to the above ideas, but feel free to come up with a few more.

I will be here for some back and forth tomorrow and I will write a new topic tomorrow for the rest of the things we are planning to implement/upgrade on Paidverts and other websites.
Revoltchka
Traffic Value: $141.80329 Aruba
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08/02/2018 00:38
I have read the news and in my opinion this is good and bad.Because our ad issues can go down because of new members earning some free money and being active(maybe we all need to share some love hehe)

Option 2 looks good.

But won't the people that have new members under them earn mostly or benefit from this alone?

What about the other old active members or other members that don't have allot of reffs or promote much? won't they lose money in this? because of ad issues going down for them too?

This idea looks like it would benefit promoters and advertisers mostly.
richiem
Traffic Value: $283.24108 Philippines
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08/02/2018 01:09
Just to clarify, by "advertising ad issue" do you mean the "referral ad issue"?
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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08/02/2018 01:15
" This idea looks like it would benefit promoters and advertisers mostly."

And, that is is the point...what is wrong with that?

Any company needs new buisness.
The promoters will be the ones doing the work to bring in the new buisness.

And, who said the Advertisers price for the slot(s) won't cost more than is given out...aka the extra could go to the Main Ad Issue as well. Wiich could then mean that ther doesn't need to be a drop in Group Ad Size.

Besides, those who stick around will eventually help out old members as well, when they buy ads/play games/do cash offers etc. The rest will mostly be taxed to 0. While only a small portion will actually cash out that small issue to them and never put anything back in to cover it.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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08/02/2018 02:21
The micro ad pack for 1 day will cost about $25 per day.

None of these ideas make a referrer earn more, it simply makes it easier to get into the referrer ad pool.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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08/02/2018 02:47
$25 and that's b4 we take into consideration, how many won't click any/all, how many will not cashout and thus their balances taxed to $0.00, how many more than before will turn into "stars" and be more involved (buy ads/gamble/do offers).

Small price to pay, if any, to try and get more stars/larger base for advertisers.
bpc1234
Traffic Value: $62,710.15909 United States
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08/02/2018 03:24
Raise the daily account maintenance from $.0005 to $.00075 to raise that $25 per day.
 (at current @$50 per day amount)

Its a tiny amount to each member to help move entire platform forward.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $489.01092 Netherlands
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08/02/2018 04:03
i think i would prefer option 3.

I am happy things are getting changed. i hope these instant ads will change their behavior.
Maybe also set up those instant ads for all new members that have joined this year and havent been active recently and sent them an email about their reward.
richiem
Traffic Value: $283.24108 Philippines
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08/02/2018 04:48
I somehow don't agree that the micro ad pack doesn't consume BAP. I think it should consume BAP. Besides, there are BAP ads already available. They should be trained to collect (or acquire) BAP to get cash ads.

And maybe this will lower the $25 a day cost, because we are giving away 200 free BAPs daily to them anyway. This may also improve click rates on fixed ads.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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08/02/2018 05:37
"we are giving away 200 free BAP"


Actually, it's complicated as it starts out at 240, if they claim all 16.
And, if 100 claimed is still the cutoff b4 #9-16 are no longer claimable, that's a whole week b4 they drop to 120. (At one point I remember that if one buys $1 Ad Pack that stops #9-16 as well. Is that true?)

They get BAP Bonus as well (and up to 20 more than 240 if they do enough Cash Offers for ex) as they climb the ladder (8 just for CFE if they know about it, as that's easy, for instance).
Starting with 100 ads clicked they get 8BAP (500 16/1K 24/10K 32).
Staring with week 2 aka 7 days they get 8 (30D 16 BAP / 50D 24BAP / 100D 32BAP)

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BTW, I have a new member just joined and they claimed all 16 AA's, plus Claimed a 0 BAP Bonus Reward (so they know about it, and it's clickable at 0), plus 11 losses in a row of AG (again found it, but didn't win...I'll keep that in mind), and they are now down to 129 BAP due to 100 BAP TAX. No Instant etc ads, yet. Which means they should have enough for Group 0 in a couple hours. Hopefully they show up and claim the Paid Ads and do Today's AA's. I seem to have a clicker here, just need to keep them hooked.

I also think we need to look beyond just active/inactive and check their history to see what specific advice we can give to nudge them in the stick this thing out direction. For instance, I notice that one ref claimed the 0 BAP bonus reward, plus 1 AA, then got 4 Paid CT ads, but didn't come back in time, and had no BAP even if they did later. In fact another user had that as well (diff being LA and then tax to reduce the rest).

Hmm every ~12hrs (or even you'd think 24hs just to claim one) is this not known to newbies? Or do they see BAP gone but no idea why and just give up?
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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08/02/2018 05:45
"They should be trained to collect (or acquire) BAP to get cash ads."

They will hopefully do so when they get hooked.
However, right now, they don't see CASH ads.

Now, they have found the BAP Bonus Reward (even though it's 0)...anecdotally.
So, maybe they'd find Spend X BAP to get a Micro Ad Issue button.

I don't know if that should be tested first...it would be "free" if it cost the BAP it turns into cash.

As Cash Ads w/o BAP reduction aren't a PV feature, save for newbies, so we wouldn't be training them at all to how it works.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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08/02/2018 06:34
Sorry for the multi post"spam":

A couple questions:
Only potential access, meaning if it takes 2 newbie 100 clicked refs to gey any, and only 1 did, so sad but you still don't qualify...or if it takes 3 for the next group, but you only have 2, same deal, sorry.

What Ads count towards this? It helps me know the best option based on how many I think they can do.

Which of the following options would you prefer to apply to the pool of the advertising ad issue:

-Once any of your new referrals (signed up during the past 7 days) clicks 100 ads within that week you get a 7 day access to the advertisers ad issue from the moment they click their 100th ad

Here you get a full week, of potential ad access. Though the stickler, they HAVE to click their 100th by the end of day 7.

-We extend the period in which your referrals can click 100+ ads for you to apply to the pool from 7 to 14 days (you will get access from the moment they finish their 100th ad until the 14th day after their sign up)

This means that if it takes them 10 days, you only get access for 4 days, which may or may not be Group Ad days. You do more get the chance at 100 vs the current system. If you think it takes 8 days or more, at least you get some vs none.

Heck, #1 is covered here as well? If they click their 100th ad on Day 7 you get 7 days....you also get more if they get 100 earlier. So, the only drawback is more users qualify, reducing how much you get over 1? And, that may only be less overall if the avg turs out to be 8+, if it's less days to get to 100, you get more days of Issues, which might cover the difference.

-We decrease the requirement from 100 ads to 25 ads to qualify for the pool.
Please keep in mind that this option will heavily decrease the amount you are going to get from the ad issue as there will be far more people that will qualify for the pool using these conditions.

The bottom group is already not much (it consumes BAP, so they 20% $2BAPrate is minimal), I wouldn't want even less. I'd rather increase it to 150 or more (but if not already included allow AA and AG).

I want the one with biggest chance of 5 Group Ad days.

What I think I am learning is that my posts, to those who questioned, of how I thought it worked and didn't like is true.
Currently, they need to first click 100 ads. Then, still be new in the past 7 days. Then it needs to be a Group Ad day. There is no gurantee you even get them to be a +1 for ref Ad Issue, for even 1 day, let alone 5. And, if AA/AG don't qualify and you don't get a self-starter (cause don't Group 0 only get 1 ad?, whereas it costs something to get to Group 1), which even then would take a couple Group days away.

I guess, I think it's way too hard to get qualifiers now. Not even in the spirit of getting active clickers. Even if AA/AG count it still takes a couple days (though these can be weekend).


What I want is:
1. Figure out how long it actually takes on a bell curve to click 100 ads, that qualify.
2. Give upline members a bit longer to let their uplines to qualify...not the avg or outliers....so 85-98%.
3. Give not based on % but based on X qualifiers aka 40 qulaifiers gets you 40x the reward vs 1...and give that reward for 5 days. The amount given for 1 qualifier can go up and down as it's 1/1500 or 1/2000 etc but still same portion of the Ad Isssue.

In fact, I am not really sure why you want them to click so fast anyways. I can see not giving them a year, but a month should be fine (heck, even 50 of the clicks being in the past week, whenever that was in their membership, should be fine)...maybe they don't understand the system and they need time to learn it etc.

I think of this more an ongoing ref contest.
The qualifiers still have to have contributed (through 100 clicks) and thus have a chance of sticking around and contribute other ways.
But, you are rewarding those who refer.
You shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to maybe get a couple qualifing and then only maybe get an Ad Issue.

dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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08/02/2018 06:34
I'd go for three. It may lower the referrer ad benefit but it would get more people excited and involved. If they see those extra ads show up in their accounts they are going to work to keep them or get more. These are people that have money or ability to get referrals and they have a good amount of BAP here so they have a skill or spending money for referring and they have proven to be active here. I think empowering them will be a net benefit

On the newbie incentives, maybe you could provide an option for our BAP instant ads or half our BAP ad purchase or something like that to go to new members. I think more buy the BAP ads than regular advertising so involving those ads would do more I think
klemen50
Traffic Value: $5,893.23193 Slovenia
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08/02/2018 07:55
I like option two:
-We extend the period in which your referrals can click 100+ ads for you to apply to the pool from 7 to 14 days (you will get access from the moment they finish their 100th ad until the 14th day after their sign up)

If we will start with micro ads, new members will have a better option to click those 100 ads faster.
25 ads......it's just too low of a number for me.
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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08/02/2018 09:16
I would just like to make it clearer what any changes to referrer ad issue conditions would do, as often members think only about one side of the coin.

ANY CHANGE to make getting into the referrer ad issue pool EASIER, WILL result in significantly reduced value of ads sent to anyone in that pool. The pool will remain the same, just there will be a lot more members in the pool sharing the value of those ads (could be a few more, could up up to 5xtimes more people sharing the ads).

The referrer ad issue might look attractive now, making it easier to qualify will almost surely change that.

Also note that any other changes/improvements to the first experience of new users (i.e. instant micro ad pack and potential other option), will automatically result in more users qualifying. Would you as referrers prefer that over the exclusivity?
stark100
Traffic Value: $729.96203 Hungary
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08/02/2018 09:47
Maybe new users could have a little more BAP for their first purchases in a period of 10 days after joining? That would be incentive and they would stick to the site after investing money.
jagodinac123
Traffic Value: $354.01015 Serbia
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08/02/2018 09:57
I think all our efforts have to go firstly towards engaging new users to stick around.
I like getting ref ad issue now (from those few that qualify) , but that won`t matter much if ultimately most of refs I get, will quit.
That being said, I like the Micro ad and e-mail reminders idea...which both go towards the goal of having new users being more engaged.
I mentioned some time ago an idea that when welcoming new users... we also write to them something like: Check your e-mails from time to time because you might be contacted by your sponsor, might get help and Pif etc...
I`m sure that these new reminder e-mails will serve a similar purpose but it should also mention the sponsor because the option to contact the sponsor will surely benefit new users much more than just reading e-mails from Paidverts about new development or whatever...
register
Traffic Value: $3,456.01946 Belgium
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08/02/2018 10:24
I prefer option 2. Extend the 100 ads clicked to 14 days.
Rightchoice
Traffic Value: $6,650.95153 Finland
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08/02/2018 11:13
This is hard one actually. To make referrer ad issue seem worth it for referrers it should stay hard to reach. 

Since PV will implement some new ads to users who just joined I don't see any point to make it easier to get into referrer ad issues. This will already make it bit easier to reach it.

Either that or make new group along with changes for top 1%.

On the other hand lowering requirements opens it up for more users. allowing more users to enjoy some extra ads.

Short version:

1. preferred. 
2. okay. with top 1%
3. meh. 
Crimson
Traffic Value: $1,274.48527 Romania
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08/02/2018 11:26
Agree with register.I prefer option 2. Extend the 100 ads clicked to 14 days.Also,maybe no account maintenance or bap tax for them for 7-14 days.
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