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Rightchoice
Traffic Value: $6,650.95153 Finland
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17/01/2018 10:23
Lets assume PV would give 10x 0.0005 ads to new users for example 5-7 days. 

Only activated users could get them cutting down costs quite a lot as not everyone even bothers activate they account.

furthermore these could be ads that CANNOT be recycled as in to not circulate to other users. they would simply be newcomer ads. again cuts down cost as not everyone clicks. 

It could be ran as test to see if it has effect or not. smile
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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17/01/2018 10:45
I was wondering about that..i thought maybe it was $25 (one math model came up with that - but I couldn't replicate it - only got $2.5 again...I really should be asleep).

Still, it won't be an end up cost of anywhere near $25.

If they get their BAP via AA ads, the AA ads should be priced to cover that BAP given out, if not, that's a shame. And, thus, the only difference you need to cover is the $1 gets you 2400 (or promotion) ratio..aka the 400 BAP. No need to worry about BAP acquired or reacquired via the BAP Market, if anything that lowers the cost as well.

Also, very few actually click the Activation Ads in the first place...not 500..I don't have access to those numbers...but judging from inactive vs active rates mentioned in the CO-OP. it's not that high.

Also, while a shame, some will click the cash ads, but never cash out.

Also, there is a chance that some use that 5c (or in my idea could be even more, if paid for) on the recycle upgrade or towards other products that are pure revenue generators.


Yeah, it's a shame that the advertising products underperform, but that's more about lack of/limited true advertisers in the first place, more so than product offerred. Having it built for when they will get $100/spot, even if it's 5K New a day would be a nice product to have...even if that is years from now. I know limited budget and limited time, but still.
gugakip
Traffic Value: $739.34329 Belgium
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17/01/2018 10:49
500 new users a day, but they get it for 10 days. So that's 5000 users who get those ads daily. 10*$0.0005 = $0.005 for every member. 5000users*$0.005/user = $25/day.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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17/01/2018 10:54
Right, duh, that's where I was getting it messed up.

Day 1 it's $2.5
Day 2 it's $5
...
Day 11 it's $25
Day 12 it's $25
..
Day 365 it's $25
...etc

Provided the number is 500 new and they all claim etc etc.
In reality, way too many variables to know w/o experiencing it, and will change as we grow/get influxes of new members from different sources.
babycare
Traffic Value: $25,276.97238 Saudi Arabia
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17/01/2018 11:48
For a long time, I wanted to point out what druth8x just did. From what I see, not even 1% of my 99 referrals (except my acquaintances) have ever cashed out anything. I think very few of what we give to new recruits ever ends up as actual expense if we can control multi accounting.
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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17/01/2018 13:09
Encouraging them to buy the 0.05 recycler upgrade gets the 100x0.0005 back. Druth has said it, I just want to repeat it for emphasis.

More clicking activity, happier advertisers. More banners will be viewed. Those who click cash ads must also click AA so increased clicks for AA fixed ads.
SilntKiller
Traffic Value: $1,295.4559 Pakistan
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17/01/2018 14:34
I think the best way to increase the clickers activity is improving ad grid and implementing ptp feature  like rotate4all instead of giving cash give bap like 0.01 viewing each ad.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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17/01/2018 18:17
also make sure in the ads you sent you advertise mostly our own products. the forum the games and BMF.

who knows this helps a bit to cover the costs
NIKO75
Traffic Value: $4,428.2217 Romania
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17/01/2018 21:28
Hello. No offence but any moderator has observe the way user medoking win for 3 days in a row on roulette by betting 5000 bap and win 180.000 bap so many times. It is impossible to win this way if you are not Nostradamus. 
NIKO75
Traffic Value: $4,428.2217 Romania
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17/01/2018 21:32
HEY. This guy medoking has founding a way to cheat roulette. Are you watching this.

medoking 5,000 win 180,000
medoking 10,000 win 15,000
medoking 10,000 lose --
medoking 10,000 win 15,000
medoking 5,000 win 180,000


Username Bet Outcome Prize
medoking 10,000 win 15,000
medoking 5,000 win 180,000
medoking 10,000 win 15,000
medoking 10,000 lose --
medoking 5,000 win 180,000
il051
Traffic Value: $14,823.02214 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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17/01/2018 21:38
This is definitelly not something normal for roulette:

January 17th  56  485,000 3,165,000 2,680,000 653%
January 16th  33  295,000 1,290,000    995,000 437%
January 15th  17  150,000    825,000    675,000 550%
January 14th  22  128,700    643,050    514,350 500%
January 13th  78  105,850    110,700         4,850 105%
NIKO75
Traffic Value: $4,428.2217 Romania
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17/01/2018 21:41
Are there any moderator to investigate this medoking user activity?   
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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17/01/2018 22:22
he often wins 175K with a 5K bet....it seems to be impossible to me too so many days in a row
NIKO75
Traffic Value: $4,428.2217 Romania
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17/01/2018 22:27
This guy is definitely stilling from paidverts. You cant bet on one number and win so many times. He become so greedy in last days. 
stark100
Traffic Value: $729.96203 Hungary
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17/01/2018 22:59
Today he hit the correct number 22 times/79 plays. Marty McFly is also an MTV member. grin
Hoppa61
Traffic Value: $73,032.40453 Netherlands
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17/01/2018 23:03
Yes, what medoking is doing is mathematically impossible.
He found a way to cheat.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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17/01/2018 23:29
Very nice catch.
From 0 to 6m BAP indeed.
Wouldn't he have gotten greedy, he would have probably gotten away with it.
He didn't cash out a penny.

Keep an eye out please, as we don't know if he had any other accounts.
We will look into the game.
NIKO75
Traffic Value: $4,428.2217 Romania
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18/01/2018 00:06
Thank you for your fast response MarcdeKoning. I was watching this guy activity for 3 days. Where is the fun of gambling when you cheat. Nobody shod do that. There is no difference between a thief, a criminal and a person who has satisfaction of destroying the work of so many people. I now can sleep knowing that you will investigate the activity but I will be always watching this kind of guys. Maybe this actions will be easily discovered if anybody could see what kind of bet you are making every time. Thanks again. Good night!    
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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18/01/2018 00:15
There are bets made by all users bet by bet day by day in the portfolio (show up just like RP transfers)...that might be what you are looking for.

Glad you saw this 3 days ago.
I hope you would have flagged the cashout request if there was one. No harm no foul/better be safe than sorry, if it's legit.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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18/01/2018 00:19
Fixed.
The user is banned and swept clean.
It's very possible that someone else abused it too, but it's not possible to abuse from now on anymore.
If you find something suspicious, I will look into it.

Thank you guys! smile
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