Advertise here
Hourly Auctions
#12816 won with $1.00

Welcome Guest - Login / Register Forum - Monitor - LoyalCrypto

LoyalCrypto

Sticky threads

Latest Posts

MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
5 like this post 0 people
02/07/2017 22:43
All he is saying is that he is considering to no longer use non existent money to give you some sort of daily minimal result.
It makes perfect sense imo.
It's the difference between a sustainable and unsustainable paidverts in our case.
bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
2 like this post 0 people
02/07/2017 23:02
I agree with that point Marc but you going to have people running all over the internet calling it a scam cause they promised a daily payment no matter what. Even if it was only 0.01% it would imo at least keep some of them happy. When i put my money in that what i thought the promised payment was anyway. Also i went in this long term but if they keep going like this it going to blow up before it actual get started.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
3 like this post 0 people
02/07/2017 23:22
Basically they are following what I did here.

Turn it into a fair platform, without any made up numbers.

Also, the concept of this revenue share is quite genius as it is actually more profitable to invest later, than sooner.
Most revenue shares work the other way.

Here's why:

The first ones buying in get the slower return as they are just using the investor's money to come up with the returns.
The more money they make of themselves through building this project, the more money they will keep in the pool themselves to trade for the 120% returns.

Once they get a few results of 10%~ (Which is really not hard if the market has some volume) then you only need 12 of them to get your full result.
Those investing right afterwards will be investing into a bigger pool to trade with, which has their money in there as well.

This will speed up the process as they grow, for themselves and for you. (Assuming over the long term the only way is up wink )

So the longer they are up, the better deal they offer and the more funds they are able to handle/pay quick returns on.
carvalho17
Traffic Value: $28.3459 Brazil
3 like this post 0 people
02/07/2017 23:24
I think that 0.1% was very "generous" and too good to be true. Like moose said, 0.01% and a post asking people not to withdraw very low amounts/raising the minimum cashout after explain it would be understandable. I think it will hurt their image a bit, because it's not even 2 weeks from launch and they are already taking out something they promised on launch.
bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
1 like this post 0 people
03/07/2017 00:06
True again Marc but in the mean time they need to do something to protect their image. All these changes from what we were sold in the begin is not going to look good to people that are coming in later. Plus we both know there people that jump in this looking for the fast buck. Those are going to be the ones that go around trashing the business the loudest while people like you,me and other that are looking long term are happy with what they are doing.

My thing is i cant see why people would be withdrawal a dollar anyway cause they would be nothing in their accounts unless they know a secret i dont know it would all get at up in transaction fees.  
donsoulz
Traffic Value: $7,212.45963 Malaysia
2 like this post 0 people
03/07/2017 00:54
as long they pay and not scam for 120% i don't mind to wait....play safe than sorry..
Jack1953
Traffic Value: $93.136 Brazil
1 like this post 0 people
03/07/2017 03:38
It seems I have made a good move not being an “early bird “, giving them more time for them to prove something of their own. So far,  whether or not caused by the market they have not fulfilled the “too good to be true” launching promises. Still keeping an eye!
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
6 like this post 0 people
03/07/2017 08:33
Trashing an honest business is nothing new.
Everyone who does some research knows that the current market has very little opportunities to make a few bucks with just a strategy of buying/holding.
jpla1991
Traffic Value: $773.5176 Portugal
1 like this post 0 people
03/07/2017 10:17
Right now that I finally invested they stoped paying the minimum profit. I'm not against it, it makes total sense to not pay profits that they don't have, but it was very imprudent of them to promise it to us from the begining. I'm fine with it, but lots of people won't like it and will make bad publicity about it.
MartinKrpan4
Traffic Value: $3,154.08454 Slovenia
1 like this post 0 people
03/07/2017 17:40
@Marc: I fully support their decision to not pay 0,1% when there is no profit from trades, BUT that said: what I would actually appreciate a lot would be transparency. For example, they should work on some kind of daily reports, where they show the members what is happening. 
Also if they would enlighten us (members) with the actual profit distribution schematics in detail, I am confident many more people would consider this a real investment opportunity. To explain what I have in mind is something like: day DD.MM.YYYY, total trading capital XXXX.XX BTC (or USDT), daily result: + 2,37%, distribution: X% operating costs, X% reserve fund, X% distribution to members, X% weekly competition fund (this is just a rough example what I would expect from an investment site and I do invest in many different investment funds.

I noticed that you mentioned - quote: "Once they get a few results of 10%~ (Which is really not hard if the market has some volume) then you only need 12 of them to get your full result." 
But I have read on their FB page that they expect to make 0,5% to 2% daily profits - so that is the reason why I would like to know exactly how they will / plan to distribute actually daily earnings between investors (and also because the percentage they actually do add on our balance is not actual profit, since they are returning a total of 120% of each investment. That makes the process much more non-transparent and I don't say it is not good, I am just saying it is not transparent enough.
jpla1991
Traffic Value: $773.5176 Portugal
1 like this post 0 people
03/07/2017 18:12
@MartinKrpan4


I understand the "need" for transparency, but I'd rather if they dedicated more of their efforts to trading than having to waste time filling reports. Plus, you're asking for much info and they may not feel comfortable exposing their strategies to everybody, which for obvious reasons, they will not do it. I don't know how transparent are certain brokers and portfolios of indexes of stock traders, but I'm willing to let these guys have their time to show us how good they are. Now it's obviously a bad time, but 0.5% daily is really good if it's a legit business.
MartinKrpan4
Traffic Value: $3,154.08454 Slovenia
2 like this post 0 people
03/07/2017 22:15
@jpla1991: What has a transparency about how they intend to distribute earnings got to do with their strategy? Those are two totally different things IMHO.
What I want to say was Marc has given us some explanation which differs from the info we can all read on their FB page. I would just like to know what are actual plans, I am not asking for their trading strategy in any way. 
The proposal as I understand it is: I invest and they share the profits with me, so isn't it a logical conclusion that I want to know how the profits will be distributed??? 
Regarding the report - the intention is to distribute profits based upon results of trading for the past day - they need to make calculations for themselves any way, what I was proposing was only that they make a section on the web page where they could post that info (in the future of course when they will make profit from trading).  I am not asking for the home address or telephone number, only a bit more information and I did not mean I demand it, I only suggested is as I am sure that would make this much more interesting opportunity for many people out there and as I understood it, they want to have a large amout on money to trade with - as it probably gives them better trading conditions.
bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
0 like this post 0 people
03/07/2017 22:47
MartinKrpan4 forgive me if i am wrong but i think you wanting something like they did the first day. Check the facebook page i think you see one day they put up a chat of what they were trading. Then the market went bearish so they never followed up with any more reports like that
MichaelKline
Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States
1 like this post 0 people
04/07/2017 00:20
It's more than likely that any delays in daily payments are related to this statement in the 6/30 LC News section:

"We are still working on changing our system from USD to Bitcoin, which will be finished somewhere next week, most likely."

Your patience is appreciated.
Happy Earnings!
bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
0 like this post 0 people
04/07/2017 01:04
That and them moving most or all of their investment to USDT which from what i am seeing it not moving ever much yet.
MichaelKline
Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States
2 like this post 0 people
06/07/2017 21:41
Yeah!
My Balance is now in BTC.
Progress...
fajolo
Traffic Value: $614.23297 Poland
1 like this post 0 people
19/07/2017 14:38
Is my account OK ?
Look:
Date  12-07-2017 09:07:16 
Description BT deposit completed +0.02141328 
New balance 0.02141328
Date 12-07-2017 09:07:16
Description New investment #215 -0.02141328
New balance 0.00000000
DASHBOARD
Income from deposit - nothing - 0 -
TOTAL INVESTED :  0.02141328
ACTIVE INVESTMENTS : 1
AVAILABLE BALANCE : 0.00000000

After 7 days I have 0 from my deposit
My Sponsor's username - KingInvestments
I need Sponsor's help !
donsoulz
Traffic Value: $7,212.45963 Malaysia
1 like this post 0 people
19/07/2017 14:41
you are okay..currently no payment 
fajolo
Traffic Value: $614.23297 Poland
1 like this post 0 people
19/07/2017 14:47
donsoulz
Thx for info
bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
0 like this post 0 people
19/07/2017 15:24
Post from their FB page. 15 hours ago.

It seems a favorable segwit option will be locked in any time soon..
However, as of now nothing is certain yet and Jihan has proven to be extremely greedy in the past, willing to destroy others for it..
The charts show us that we will have one big massive red candle still to go..
Which should end up around $1800 and then around August 1st we enter a pattern in which we should get a final confirmation of either a bullish market or a bear market for multiple months (That would be very bad and scare off 10s of thousands investors)
Let's hope the bitcoin miners are smart.. As if they come up with a proper solution, it almost surely will break the current pattern and turn into a bull market, for at least a short period of time.
Fingers crossed, we will keep you informed!
Page: , , , , , , 7, , , , , , , ,
Forum - Monitor - LoyalCrypto
Subscribe to this Topic