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OmegaN73
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24/01/2016 19:13
Yes, i was thinking about that! with the new PV products, the revenius coming from them where will it go? to the FTQ too or to dialy adds issues? 
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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24/01/2016 21:23
The Fixed Auction Ad Slots would go to Ad Issues.
Currently, the 10% from Daily Ad Issue is doing it's best job to cover that.

Which, means, it covers the Micro Ad Packs +/-'s, which Marc says 1 Ad Pack costs $500-$1000/day.

I highly doubt the 20 slots MAP/AA will be generating that much money daily, but they should cover some of it, hopefully more than the side banners are doing. After about $100 in Auction daily wins, whatever is left over, can go to Ad Issues. There probably is needed some min amount, just so Group 1 can be sent $0.0005 total. Not sure how low. IMO, I'd rather gather it all up, and send the previous week all on each Monday. Meaning, I'd rather have $500-$1000 on Monday, than $100-$200 per day.

Granted, with 50K+ Unique clickers (what Andraz said, when he first brought it up), even $50 seems like a bargain.

If ppl lose their bids, the cashier fees still go to split btwn dev funds and FTQ funds.
Though, I hope if not all slots in the current upcoming day are filled, that losers can pick from those slots. For instance, I bet more unique clickers click the 2 highest value MAP ads, and if the AA has a #1-#8 top left bottom - right, I bet #1 has quite a few thousand more than #8. So, more bids would probably happen on the Top slots, but still, if they lose, they can ask to buy a still worthy slot OR even use that as a start bid for the next days open slot of the same slot.

As far as fixed view, that funds goes the same place buying 15 and 30sec goes, which I believe also goes to Ad Issue funds. But, unless that gets the attention of advertisers that love that, hint get the word out, I doubt that will be much. Still, eventually advertisers say they want it, so it should be a net gain vs programming time, eventually. Every little bit helps.
MichaelKline
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25/01/2016 05:38
Daily Target: 1,680 Ad Packs [$2,000 Daily Ad Issue]
BAP Issued Yesterday: 2,408,700
Ad Packs Purchased: 777 [903 Short of Daily Target]
Dev Fund Contribution: $385.50

Total BAP: 4,368,009,483 [-13,349,387]
MichaelKline
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26/01/2016 06:22
Daily Target: 1,680 Ad Packs [$2,000 Daily Ad Issue]
BAP Issued Yesterday: 2,666,000
Ad Packs Purchased: 860 [820 Short of Daily Target]
Dev Fund Contribution: $430.00

Total BAP: 4,361,093,899 [-6,915,584]
MichaelKline
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27/01/2016 03:43
Daily Target: 1,680 Ad Packs [$2,000 Daily Ad Issue]
BAP Issued Yesterday: 3,267,400
Ad Packs Purchased: 1054 [626 Short of Daily Target]
Dev Fund Contribution: $527.00

Total BAP: 4,354,867,722 [-6,226,177]
MichaelKline
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28/01/2016 03:34
Daily Target: 1,680 Ad Packs [$2,000 Daily Ad Issue]
BAP Issued Yesterday: 3,617,700
Ad Packs Purchased: 1,167 [513 Short of Daily Target]
Dev Fund Contribution: $583.50

Total BAP: 4,355,680,742 [+813,020]
MichaelKline
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29/01/2016 03:39
Daily Target: 1,680 Ad Packs [$2,000 Daily Ad Issue]
BAP Issued Yesterday: 3,199,200
Ad Packs Purchased: 1,032 [648 Short of Daily Target]
Dev Fund Contribution: $516.00

Total BAP: 4,357,671,408 [+1,990,666]
jmfjmf
Traffic Value: $176.69082 Argentina
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29/01/2016 05:47
I think is an increase in debt because of games that 2 million in total debt, but active debt droped a lot. Also yesterday is positive if im not mistaken.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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29/01/2016 08:12
Michael, the overall BAP debt went up slightly by 2mil.
4355 was 1-27
4357 was 1-28

Meaning that minus should be a positive.
Yes, unusual as it is, BAP debt went up.
Actually, 2 days in a row BAP debt went up, slightly.
4354 was 1-26 aka that 813K should be a positive as well.
For reference, 4361 is 1-25. 4555 is 12-30.

Active debt on the other hand, went down by 28mil b/c of so many mil going inactive.

I can't find my recent 30 day avg post of what the avg is, so I'll do the math again:
Total = 6.5mil
Active = 10mil
That is overall avg of past 30 days worth of BAP debt removed.

Thus, on avg, 3.5mil is simply going inactive rather than be an active PV member with little/no ad issues.

AKA Active debt to 0 BAP (which is not going to be the case, as there are many patient BAP accumulators who will just wait it out) would take 362 days. Total, on the other hand, 670 days. Of those, some/most are also just waiting it out as well.

I don't think we have to worry about the Inactive debt b/c this will never be 0. And, if you are willing to keep your assets in BAP, while we still owe you cash ads, you don't get to be part of the Group Ads Pie, while inactive. OFC, if you randomly show up and become active just b4 Group Ads are back, the Active debt will increase, and the difference btwn the 2 will decrease. Which is why measuring it makes sense, but only in it's relation to Active debt.

BTW, recall, that prior to the most recent swap, the Active debt was roughly 3BIL.
Which means, to get back to that total active BAP lvl is about 600mil or about 60 days.
Now, the Inactive was not as much a discrepancy, nor do I think getting back to that amount of BAP will do the trick, but still, the preswap spend it have it swapped extra BAP accumulated for swap week, is 2 months away from being back to that lvl.

Thus, it looks to be taking just over 4 months (11-19 to roughly just b4 April Fools Day) to drop the Active BAP debt from 2.3BIL to 1.5BIL. Granted more days 0 growing BAP debt may skew the results. The main culprit seems to be b/c the last 2 days BAP games are at a 1mil BAP player edge, whereas they should be at a 10mil house edge, on avg, thus 11 mil BAP would have been removed, rather than 3mil more accumulated BAP debt.

This is the 1/28 data, that gets reset at server reset, I saved it here for reference.

Activation Ads, BAP Issued: 9025750
Ad Campaigns Purchases, BAP Issued: 3199200
Daily BAP Tax, BAP Consumed: 7884417
Bap Games, BAP Consumed: -1571594
Royalty Position Transfers, BAP Consumed: 1922914


Also, the difference btwn AA BAP and TAX is "only" 1.41 mil, and that is actually debt to the site as more was acquired than lost. Looks like more ppl are clicking more of their AA ads now so the tax didn't cover all the free BAP. Good thing Auction Ads are on their way. Also, for those who buy slots, more clicks of AA is a good thing.

The 28mil BAP must have gone inactive, but could easily show up again when PV is active itself again. For some reason, I can't figure if that's actually 26 or 30mil BAP that went inactive. In fact if we had another inactive member dump BAP in the marketplace or even the games, that would skew things as well.

Suffice it to say, Overall BAP debt is on Day 2 of a rise, only small amount, as we aren't above last time it actually dropped, but still, BAP debt needs to go down if we can't convince users to help us achieve the 10% and 50% and other things like Auction Ads.
MichaelKline
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29/01/2016 14:03
Corrected.
[I get in a hurry sometimes and miss the symbol]
jmfjmf
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29/01/2016 17:48
What i understood is that you can still play games and using the market with inactive BAP, inactive is only for the  PTC cash feature, so users can remove potentially active BAP because they just need to click one ad to become lot of inactive BAP into active or selling it to a PTC users or maybe they just are waiting for more ad issues and dont care about tax.
Thats why i think  is better track total BAP if you want to have a better idea of how effective are BAP removers vs BAP issued.
i see a drop of 27.8 mill in active debt, it means 27.8 million BAP becomes inactive in one day, but total (inactive + active) debt increase by 2 million because of games .
MichaelKline
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29/01/2016 19:54
jmfjmf
I realized this early on and only use the total bap value.
MichaelKline
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30/01/2016 02:59
Daily Target: 1,680 Ad Packs [$2,000 Daily Ad Issue]
BAP Issued Yesterday: 3,292,200
Ad Packs Purchased: 1,062 [618 Short of Daily Target]
Dev Fund Contribution: $531.00

Total BAP: 4,350,402,124 4,357,671,408 [-7,269,284]
OmegaN73
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31/01/2016 01:17
MichaelKline
Hello, i have a doubt, i think the BAP auctions is already done! so, with the revenue from that, we should have daily ads, isn't it? tomorrow? or when?
druth8x
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31/01/2016 01:30
Auctions are daily, they are never "done".
The total got from them (and 10% NEW BA's) is not enough yet to cover MAP.
While Marc gave us a big hint of ideally 7 day a week Group ads, ad revenue needs to be way up for that. Thus, at earliest, Monday.
abiotic
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31/01/2016 01:38
Where are BAP auctiom ads??
loreennaa
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MichaelKline
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31/01/2016 03:51
Daily Target: 1,680 Ad Packs [$2,000 Daily Ad Issue]
BAP Issued Yesterday: 1,782,500
Ad Packs Purchased: 575 [1,105 Short of Daily Target]
Dev Fund Contribution: $287.50

Total BAP: 4,343,961,431 [-6,440,693]
MichaelKline
Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States
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01/02/2016 04:09
Daily Target: 1,680 Ad Packs [$2,000 Daily Ad Issue]
BAP Issued Yesterday: 2,188,600
Ad Packs Purchased: 706 [974 Short of Daily Target]
Dev Fund Contribution: $353.00

Total BAP: 4,349,734,561 [+5,773,130]
druth8x
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01/02/2016 09:00
Another + day, rather than decrease, almost 6mil, hmm waiting on BAP debt to decrease on it's own enough to be low enough to entice buyers might be way too long. "Storage" is sounding better and better to me.
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