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Marc, maybe the reason could be in druth8x's post from 10 January (previous page). A gambler won 9,1 million BAPs, but... He also exchanged some of these BAPs for RPs and then for cash to buy bulk ads for few days, which raises debt once again.
If some of the winners of 5 million BAP prize pool did the same, that would also raise our debt more than aforementioned 5 million BAPs.
I think that our debt statistically raised much more than 100% of our giveaways (gambler's winnings and BAP prize pool), which maybe never happened before so this discrepancy occured.
Am I thinking in a right way?

Uganka
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17/01/2017 15:24

Don't think that's what marc means, as he is talking about patterns?

druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States

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17/01/2017 21:11

Ad Packs Purchased Yesterday: 1,104

Active BAP: 576921416

BA: 2649600
AA: 5347790
Diff: -2.57MIL
Consumed: 10.57MIL

Inactive BAP: 60.96MIL (+400K)

Bonus Ad Capacity Remaining: 637885309 (-2.16MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge: 61,254,131/65,834,804 = 93% (4.5MIL)

~66K Active Accounts

druth8x
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18/01/2017 22:22

Ad Packs Purchased Yesterday: 1,296

Active BAP: 579474059

BA: 3110400
AA: 5396907
Diff: +2.55MIL
Consumed: 5.95MIL

Inactive BAP: 56.15MIL (-4.81MIL)

Bonus Ad Capacity Remaining: 635626424 (-2.26MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge: 197,669,307/197,960,731= 100%

Did Admin clear some banned BAP? Or, how else did we drop Total BAP, with still a nice amount of new BAP, and next to nothing removed via GAMES.

BTW, I know we are short staffed, but I do hope that someone makes sure the big gambler of the past couple days has not found an exploit, at least b4 they cashout. So far, overall, they are only up ~4mil/101% 4.7mil, just the past 2 days. So, probably just on a nice overall winning streak combined with unusual for them large bids and longer sessions.

druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States

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19/01/2017 22:52

Ad Packs Purchased Yesterday: 1,719

Active BAP: 583417786

BA: 4125600
AA: 5267233
Diff: +3.94MIL
Consumed: 5.45MIL

Inactive BAP: 57.61MIL (+1.46MIL)

Bonus Ad Capacity Remaining: 641027351 (+5.4MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge: 274,238,558/272,502,434= 100.5%

MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands

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19/01/2017 23:35

If it wasn't for a day like today i'd feel sad.
I predicted this day would come in the moderators chat.. I said we were up for a 6m BAP day on the games..
7.4m and counting for today!

vicura
Traffic Value: $4,969.3683 Spain

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19/01/2017 23:56

I don't get your point Marc, could you explain it a bit?

MarcdeKoning - Administrator
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20/01/2017 00:19

The past days the volume was extremely high on the BAP games, but they were able to beat the odds.
We even lost 2 million BAP during 400 million BAP of volume.
So a day in which we'd sweep away a lot of debt in the BAP games was upcoming.
I predicted it would be this day and I predicted it to be over 6 million BAP.. And we were able to remove over 7 million of BAP in the games!

dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada

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20/01/2017 02:51

$3,700 worth of BAP

druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States

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20/01/2017 16:10

Ad Packs Purchased Yesterday: 1,417

Active BAP: 578753671

BA: 3400800
AA: 5330341
Diff: -4.66MIL
Consumed: 13.4MIL

Inactive BAP: 58.18MIL (+570K)

Bonus Ad Capacity Remaining: 636930330 (-4.1MIL)

Payouts/Bets = Edge: 235,857,255/243,348,333= 97% (7.5MIL)

Look at that, a nice big day of House Edge, and yet b/c of the volume, it's about what the House Edge should be, thus we don't "owe" our players much, if any.

babycare
Traffic Value: $25,276.97238 Saudi Arabia

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20/01/2017 17:11

@ druth8x

Would you explain a bit about what you meant by 'we don't "owe" our players much'?

Vixthra
Traffic Value: $2,179.00664 Slovenia

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20/01/2017 17:18

@babycare, 7mil might seem "much" but considering the daily volume it's really rather nothing - and, as @druth said, on par with the general house edge which is by itself small aswell.

babycare
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20/01/2017 17:52

@ vixthra

I do understand that point, but my doubt is that can we say 'we don't owe our players much' when one of them lost 2,994,750, another two above 800,000 and 12 others more than 100,000?

Or did drurh8x mean something else?

bozof
Traffic Value: $29,464.72207 Slovenia

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20/01/2017 17:55

That is why druthx used those signs " "

On average FBG only won house edge.

druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States

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20/01/2017 19:27

If an individual player is up (all plays for life on the specific game and platform) 3mil or 800K or 100K, they actually "owe" FBG a tad more than 3mil/800K/100K, due to House Edge that is built in. In reality, they play other days and probably are close to that specific game edge over their respective MTV BAP plays.

But that's NOT what I am mentioning in that post.

I've noticed that the House Edge avg across games that are played these days in the quantity these days (as different games have different edges), avgs close to 98%*.

Thus, if we look at just the 97% 1 day, we'd say FBG "owes" about 1%, or in volume, ~2.5mil BAP.
However, we've actually avg'd closer to 100% (~10mil) the previous 2 days, as a whole, which more than make up for ~2.5mil, above an avg of 98%. Though that is just a 3 days avg, to get the best picture, you'd have to look at all time, which is probably very close to 98%, and doesn't even move by 0.001% even after 1 large day.

I don't pinpoint individual players, esp by name, this is a generalization.

It's a similar analysis that Marc figured the players owed us 6mil BAP, b4 yesterday.

The whole point of the % is to show a general idea if the House Edge is being met or which side is "due", as a whole, b/c that can easily affect the rest of us via BAP debt/Ad Issue %.

BTW, that gambler I wanted a closer look on, lost yesterday, but only at a 98% avg. Today, they are up to the tune of 1.1MIL, and yet b/c of the volume, it avg's to 100% (100.44%). In the time it took me to finalize this edit/summary to update, they lost 1.5mil and are still at 100% but 400K in the hole, today only. Overall, they are at 100%, with nearly 300K profit. As far as House Edge goes, if that Game they are playing is 98%, they "owe" us nearly 16mil. Meaning, they are beating the House Edge by 16mil, even though overall, they are "barely" above 100%.

*I am not confident that 98% is the actual avg, and besides if we get gamblers in quantity (Total BAP) of bets in games with a different house avg, that would change, ever so slightly. That said, in reality, my color code should probably be black for 98% and then blue/green from there rather than 100%. Though even 99.9% means Gamblers lost, even though they beat the edge.

bozof
Traffic Value: $29,464.72207 Slovenia

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20/01/2017 19:51

Gamers are hitting back today

MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands

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20/01/2017 20:02

Quite unusual, but if we can get this kind of volume long term then paidverts will be sustainable even with more ad pack sales.. So let's hope the trend continues!

dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada

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21/01/2017 19:40

Another 4 million BAP ($2000) in gaming profits plus cash gaming profits. Momentum is building

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