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freak300
Traffic Value: $56,564.16117 Germany
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09/09/2017 13:42
I am actually leaving. I still have an investment in the PBG marketing open so I will probably get some shares at the end of the year. Other than that I have liquidated all my positions and won't buy any new ones either. 
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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09/09/2017 13:49
I'll say it again, give me a loan of half a million dollars (heck 1/4mil or even less is possible) and I'll slowly (to not drive up the price as much as possible) buy up ALL RP whatever the RP that come on sale.

It's not lack of demand, but lack of money (better money making opportunities with 4 digits or less elsewhere) from the long term holders that allows the price to slowly drop.

I might not even need that much as there is only so many short term RP being traded around. Most of the new supply comes from longer term holders who are selling low to either buy lower or move to another revenue maker (since RP only drop in value, for now, so they can rebuy later even slightly higher and come out ahead, medium term).
If they see a constant buyer they would notice that soon enough the price will naturally rise and rise and instead will become buyers themselves.

Do this slow enough and the supply will remain low and when the loan needs it's payments, they can be paid with a small portion of the RP due to the natural higher price. Just got to be careful and only sell a bit at a time, what the market can buy quickly.
mio2815
Traffic Value: $32,608.39303 Germany
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09/09/2017 13:59
Druth8x: I like your concept even so I would never take a loan to buy shares of company that's not making a positive cash flow.
freak300
Traffic Value: $56,564.16117 Germany
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09/09/2017 14:07
Like mio said: we don't have positive cashflow. How can that be worth a lot more than it is right now? If people want to buy shares I am not going to say it is necessarily a bad long term strategy but I feel like it will take a lot of time for the price to even go back to $0.01. Just demand won't cut it because you need to keep the actual value of the company in mind.

In the meantime I will take the $180 and register my own company. It just makes more sense to me. 
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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09/09/2017 14:11
"Even go back to $0.01", you're talking about a 800% return from where we are today.
Feel free to have your own opinion, but I don't see the value of sticking around and time after time telling everyone you're no longer interested in the shares.
curtisdale16
Traffic Value: $2,182.59396 Argentina
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09/09/2017 15:11
in my opinion you should see the value of his words, you should ask yourself why people are less interested in shares. or if you are not interested, instead of making tantrums, you should be concerned about bringing another freak300
freak300
Traffic Value: $56,564.16117 Germany
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09/09/2017 15:38
Well I am just saying that being realistic is way more important than hoping for unrealistic things to happen. People seem to be blinded by unrealistic expectations and the expectation alone that the share price should be fixed so that someone can get their money back shows me that most of the crowd still looks at this business as what it was in the past.

If this business wants to go where it wants to go then people need to first come to terms with what this companies situation is. This crowd (myself included) hopes for you (Marc) to fix this problem. A problem that you didn't cause and that if we are honest can't expect you to fix. 

You probably already know this but the reason I am telling you this is because at some point you might  realise that the things you have and had to give up have a price that is worth more than money. Don't get me wrong, I admire people that have a passion for something and that work towards it as I do myself. I am not talking to you here in order to devalue what you have done, in fact it is the complete opposite. I know that we have had some arguments in the past and I understand your point of view completely so don't take what I am saying personally. 

You are working furiously around the clock for this crowd. I don't think you do this just for yourself because if you would you would already be a multi-millionaire. I think you do this for this crowd, which once again I admire a lot. However as a young guy myself I know a lot of other business owners in your age that started years ago and just can't do it anymore.

There is a limit to everyone. Not just health wise but also from another angle. We are young guys and we don't just want cash but maybe also a girlfriend or even different things. This isn't even about the share price but this is about you dude. I am honestly worried about this hustlers mentality. 

I have seen those videos myself where they tell you that anything is possible but that you need to work pretty much all day and do nothing else. I am not sure how much you are working right now or how much free time you have but I am assuming you don't have much. Let me tell you one thing: it won't work.

The idea that working 16 hour days helps anyone is crazy. I don't care what anyone tells me but it will never work out. We are made not just to work but it is a combination of work and relaxing. 

Even more importantly I would like to tell you this and this is just my personal thought and I might be wrong but I think that even though you do a lot, you are not as focused as you could be because you aren't clear. You should take the time to get clear. Take a few days off and just think about yourself.

Then go and look at the company very clearly. Look at all the numbers. We have all the products that are needed. Now it is time to turn them into cash cows. I know you have already thought about how to market them but even if we and you do everything we can it brings us limited results. 

Maybe it would be time to get a real marketing pro onto the team or hire a company that is actually specialised in this area and let them do it, because even if we go and we just wait it out and pay of the FTQ what will happen then? We might be able to legalise this business then but will we still get back our people from the jobs they have now? Will we actually be able to market the products then? Is this really a money problem or do we just not know how to it? 

All I am saying is that you can't do it all by yourself and even though I know marketing pretty well I would never go ahead and market our products because I don't even know how to do it. So my honest take on this is to find ways to increase our revenue by outsourcing it to a pro. 

Research Russel Brunson for instance. This guy is a genius and his team actually help businesses to market their products properly. They are some of the best out there and even though I am not sure if they would work with us it would be worth contacting them, because if they help us then you pretty much don't have to worry anymore.

The responsibility you think you have you don't actually have to use a reason to exert yourself. You are the manager and not the person who has to do everything. 

In the end it's your decision though and I am not here to tell you what to do. Just promise me one thing: be clear about why you are doing what you are doing and always remember that your health and happiness is more important than this business. 

Good luck!
il051
Traffic Value: $14,823.02214 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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09/09/2017 16:13
Is this really a money problem...?
Yes, it is, and there's nothing else to say. How can we hire a professional marketer if we have to fire people from our own team because of lack of money?
Jack1953
Traffic Value: $93.136 Brazil
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10/09/2017 02:54
@freak3000

"I am actually leaving".....

Unfortunate but not surprising. Don´t close the door on your back. You may quite came back if they end up to change the route.
Jack1953
Traffic Value: $93.136 Brazil
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10/09/2017 03:02
@curtisdale16

"you should be concerned about bringing another freak300"

Not that easy!  Harder to keep the old users than to bring new ones.
curtisdale16
Traffic Value: $2,182.59396 Argentina
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11/09/2017 01:49
jack you take our words out of context, better make up your own opinion
Jack1953
Traffic Value: $93.136 Brazil
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11/09/2017 02:00
@curtisdale16

No problem at all mate...here it goes my own opinion....Harder to keep the old users than to bring new ones.
mrabouissam
Traffic Value: $1,736.13358 Morocco
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11/09/2017 21:27
ARGENTINA vs BRAZIL grin

BTW; I'm here from the begining and it's like that for many years, 

RP goes down
people fights, blames, mark is an idiot (sorry Mark), staff are ... bla bla bla..
RP goes up
people becames awsome, life purple, mark is the best clever manager in the world,... bla bla bla

SO I just want to say my opinion " SHUT YOUR MOUTH, BE OPTIMISSTE, THIS WILL BE THE BEST TO MAKE THIS BOAT NOT SINKING"

SORRY MARK AGAIN
petget
Traffic Value: $479.57846 Bulgaria
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14/09/2017 08:01
RPs are going to their fair value - 0 (Zero).
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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14/09/2017 15:22
shares aren't moving. Big fish are holding them in place
Sabba380
Traffic Value: $953.8011 Bahrain
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14/09/2017 16:58
there is only 2 reason of what RP price is about.

1- someone will sell it with benefit

2- someone in need he will sell it with lower price

some people are trying to manipulate other people minds to let them sell more
ALIREZA1394
Traffic Value: $13,639.83048 France
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14/09/2017 21:00
The main reason for falling prices is over 10 million shares sold by breezy .cwy
il051
Traffic Value: $14,823.02214 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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14/09/2017 21:07
Which means that when he sells remaining 3,6 millions there will be no pressure anymore. Since another user has almost the same amount of RPs in his buying bid at current price, I guess the price won't go any lower.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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14/09/2017 21:38
"I guess the price won't go any lower."

Careful now...I'm not prepared to say that.

I'm not seeing anything that tells me why 30 or 20 was still not the lowest, yet it keeps dropping....even after it appears to have stabilized/slightly rebounded.

Heck, the longer we go w/o limited staffing, further from products not producing, etc, the more the selling could happen. PPl seem to be "ok" with pennies on the dollar, a few less pennies won't stop them from liquidating.

I hope that Marc is doing well with CryptoTrading...and I hope that whatever big news he hinted but can't divulge actually comes through.

BTW, this RP market isn't value based on the site's health or what have you. Which is why I still "know" that if all the supply is in longer terms holders hands, and that if the loaners could trust Marc et all to still be here in 10 years, that I and the loaners could become super rich b/c eventually the RP WILL be much more reflective esp once the supply is limited. And, ofc, at these low prices, we could agree to sell a small portion, at still under 1c each, only when the demand meets/exceeds the supply, and we will still have lots of supply for getting rich with.
donsoulz
Traffic Value: $7,212.45963 Malaysia
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15/09/2017 00:46
Let see if my 1M RP can make me rich one day...hehegrin
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