Advertise here
Hourly Auctions
#13816 won with $1.00

Welcome Guest - Login / Register Forum - Brainstorm - Partnering with youtubers

Partnering with youtubers

Sticky threads

Latest Posts

Aunifahad
Traffic Value: $261.94847 Bangladesh
28 like this post 0 people
03/09/2016 17:28
So recently there's been a lot of noise in the youtube community about advertiser friendly videos,What this basically means is that youtube is becoming very strict about their laws and policies,for example they are demonatizing any video that talks about controversial things,news,use curse words etc.So this means no news channel on youtube is gonna get ad revenue money,So this effects a lot of youtubers,Bigshots like Pewdipie,Marktplier,Jon Oliver,Jon steward to smaller guys like boogie2988 and many others channels might be effected because of this.So I was thinking and I know this is a long shot but if PV/MTV becomes fully stable and fully legal maybe we should consider partnering up with a few youtubers,Unlike big TV channels they won't cost so much because they are mostly independeant and also it will give MTV/PV a huge exposure and also help out a few smaller/medium channels on youtube since youtube doesn't want to pay a large number of them,I think it'll be a win win for both.So what do you guys think? Let me know. smile
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
5 like this post 0 people
03/09/2016 21:19
That's a great idea. Those sites have plenty of viewers. In the millions and they have space to link to our site so they could keep the link for a long time or a short period of time.

you tube and google unfortunately are becoming very political and very hypocritical in their actions. I don't think they are doing this for the right reasons. I think they are doing this to force people to think they way they want so they are going to use this action as a way to target those they disagree with. It could benefit us though so we should look at that

Those youtubers are going to get hungry fast but we should try to get to them before others come up with those ideas so they don't charge as much
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
3 like this post 0 people
03/09/2016 22:13
A couple of the reports I read on this was telling me that they had at least been doing this for months, they just made the notification much easier for the youtube channel owners to know. Meaning, at least for months, some, but not nearly all, of their videos were almost silently being demonetized, when the bot came around and decided to do so. A very rude practice, b/c if internet savy users hadn't known about it all this time, then youtube while they didn't get any money for those videos, as the ads were pulled, were outright stupid to not make the notification easy from the get go.

Can anyone clarify this matter?

That said, as an advertiser, even if I did care about what type of video I'm supporting, the way the bot works now, is deffective, even if it takes a couple days/weeks, the randomness of what still have ads, and what don't is pathetically not following the guidelines. If it's true this is months old, then that is even more sad.

For instance, ~10% of ALL TYT videos were demonetized. If the guidelines were followed, I'd say 99% probably are under those very loose guidelines.

________________________
I'm glad, that for years, that youtubers have been finding other ways to monetize their channel, like shopping lines, membership, patreon, another website, and yes, even many of the biggest have come together so they can as a network do a big enough ad buy directly.

I see the Marc like of your post, so I look forward to this coming to fruition someday.

On top of that, we should instate default refer for the hour/day bidding, a min bid value is perfectly acceptable. When FBG gets that much different type of traffic, the chances of what sort of value those new members will bring could be huge. Hard to assess, but maybe make it so the very least be that tyhe cost of advertising is covered by those min bidders, and not the site itself.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
5 like this post 0 people
03/09/2016 22:34
If what you are saying is true then it probably has little to do with unacceptable content and more do do with them wanting to keep the bucks for themselves. I remember when they first had adsense and they were purging sites for any and every reason. obviously another cash grab.

I guess youtube figures they are making enough money from their videos that they no longer need to be partners with the 'little people' any more

I tell you, that company is going to make us all into peasants if they get the chance
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
4 like this post 0 people
03/09/2016 22:42
Another thing too is that we don't have to pay them all in cash. We could pay them in advertising too. That will boost their page views and websites. So it could be a cross promotion which gives tangible value but doesn't cost us anything
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
3 like this post 0 people
04/09/2016 01:12
How can it be a cash grab if there are no ads being shown that generate the revenue?

Or am I misunderstanding what demonetization is and how youtube makes their money via the channels?

If there are no ads, not only does the channel not get the money, nor does youtube.
Now, if the advertisers are paying a higher premium for the higher "quality", and youtube is keeping all that extra revenue, and overall, the total ad buys are the same or higher, then youtube is cash grabbing.

BTW, about a month ago, IDK if it was something I did, but for some reason, my noscript is not blocking youtube ads anymore. My local ad buy market is decently small and yet besides the Harry Reid open Senate seat ads, I am getting a couple credit unions and a local car dealership (granted for the car dealership it is an international brand, so the head company could have bought huge enough and the locals just show their respective ads), among others.

If that is any indication, youtube is not hurting for advertisers. Thus, no demonetization should be needed. If a particular brand doesn't want to advertise on a certain type of content, "Have at it, Hoss", another advertiser will be avl to fill that slot, one that knows in the 2010s that advertisers realize we choose the content we watch, thus we like that content. So if anything, we will associate that ad with good feelings. YES, we will petition companies to pull sponsoring for Trump, though sponsoring and advertising are a bit different. That said, if an Anti-Abortion advocacy Group Ad is shown with a story on Planned Parenthood in the content of the video, no one is going to change their mind and go to the competitors Anti-Abortion "Clinic" instead. Also, no one who sees that ad will think to boycott them further, nor that the advertiser actually condones Abortions. If anything, seeing both choices, may in fact lead to some to seek their "services", instead of just a mainly one-sided argument. Advertisers can be short sighted old farts stuck in their ways.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
7 like this post 0 people
04/09/2016 01:52
I honestly don't think google likes the little guy based on what the did with adsense. If they could cut them out of the revenue stream I think they would. I think they want to turn this all into a big boys club where only the multinational ad agencies put through what they want us to see

I am really suspicious of their agenda but I'm sure it will soon be revealed to all vampire
Aunifahad
Traffic Value: $261.94847 Bangladesh
1 like this post 0 people
04/09/2016 07:23
 Also I think youtube already takes about a big percent of the ad revenue money anyway,And that's if anyone clicks on the ads on the video,So unless the youtuber has crazy amount of views per video they pretty much get paid nothing.Unless they have patreon or merchandising, but even those are never enough to make a decent living and now with advertiser friendly content it's gonna get even harder for them to make money on youtube for people who takes their content seriously.ermm
Aunifahad
Traffic Value: $261.94847 Bangladesh
1 like this post 0 people
04/09/2016 07:42
@druth8x I think youtube gets it's money from adword,they show the ads on their videos or on the side of the videos or in a banner form and if people clicks on the ads they share that revenue with the youtubers.
gugakip
Traffic Value: $739.34329 Belgium
11 like this post 0 people
04/09/2016 08:56
In the past Marc told something about becoming the new AdSense I believe... when targeted ads were first mentioned. He couldn't tell more back then, still the case I guess? Can you just tell if that idea is still being worked on?

I own a very small website which I'm still expanding. I use adsense for some money (hosting and hopefully more in a while). But if adsense doesn't want me as little advertiser, I want something else to display... hopefully in a few years I can proudly say that I use: MTVAds smile
Forum - Brainstorm - Partnering with youtubers
Subscribe to this Topic