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dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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09/06/2020 18:40
I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean this market?

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/shareholders.html#marketplace
Hoppa61
Traffic Value: $73,032.40453 Netherlands
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09/06/2020 21:15
As there are 2 sites, is the plan to first implement on one to see the impact and compare?
fraser
Traffic Value: $10,524.3446 Australia
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09/06/2020 23:53
Generally, I think the proposal is a good idea.  I guess it'll just depend on whether we then don't have enough 'clickers' to get through all the ads.

In addition, could we also amend the Ad Filter so that users could choose to not do the very low value BAP ads, without it negatively affecting them?  Some people might think they are not worth their while, but the unclicked value could either be shared among the smaller users or just burned by MTV.

Actually, you could even have two Ad Filters.  1 for cash ads and 1 for BAP ads, and charge for both.

As Hoppa suggested, it's probably a good idea to test on one of the sites and see what the reaction is.  There are always unintended consequences.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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10/06/2020 03:59
i think you can also skip the 2400 baps oncde a month. if a low member buys for 1$ while it is on sale with 25% bonus baps it gets for 1$ like 5,5K baps. in my opinion tphat 2400 bonus should only be given if you buy at least 5 or 10 adpacks
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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10/06/2020 04:01
I need to find my PIN for the BAP market...


How much BAP do you get for $1 in the BAP Marketplace?
richiem
Traffic Value: $283.24108 Philippines
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10/06/2020 05:40
Or how about this: if you buy within 30 days, you get 5 BAP per activation ad, after 30 days it goes down to 1 BAP per activation ad until you buy another ad.

It can also be 14 days, instead of 30.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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10/06/2020 15:46
richiem,

They don't need a BAP sell market. They can buy RPs and then put them on the RP-for-BAP sales market just like everyone else does.

They don't even have to buy RPs, they have a huge pool. 50,000 shares dropped on that market @ 5 BAP would soak up $125 per day or over $3500 per month. Can the BAP market handle that big a whale? Maybe not

If they did want to buy RPs for that trade it would only cost them about $30
richiem
Traffic Value: $283.24108 Philippines
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10/06/2020 22:27
dguy,

Yup, I've been doing that for a while now, at a very small scale, like 1000% smaller.

One reason I don't like it is it affects smaller BAP traders like me. smile
fraser
Traffic Value: $10,524.3446 Australia
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11/06/2020 00:03
@druth8x


$1 gets you 6333 BAPs via the marketplace.


Buy $1 worth of RPs at best available price $0.0006 = 1666 RPs


Sell 1666 RPs at the 'immediate' rate of 4 BAP per RP = 6666 BAPs


Pay the 5% BAP tax = 333 BAPs


Get 6333 BAPs. Total value of BAPs = $3.17


You have turned $1 into $3.17


I'd find your PIN number if I were you.


(Edit: Granted, the value is in BAP which you cannot immediately liquidate, but if you have patience and believe in MTV long term it is crazy to not be doing this unless you are a genuine advertiser.  In that case buying ads makes sense.  MTV is at the fine tuning stage.  This is an incredible business...people just haven't realised it yet.  Some have though, and they are increasing their RP positions because they see what's coming)
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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11/06/2020 03:35
what is the purpose of having a button to report an add if there is nothing being done about it ?

its now like 48 hours ago that i have reported an add in paidverts  that totally freeze up everything on my laptop with popups and all and i am still getting that same add

Error: You have already reported this campaign, please wait patiently while we review it
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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11/06/2020 03:56
6666 is way more than 2400 plus 100% (2400).

Thus, this won't get me buying BAP ads.

Heck, even if I did have sometghing to advertise, I'd still use the market and with the savings buy other types of ad options.

BTW, I have a boat load and a half of RP (long term) AND huge for the past years worth of ad delivery BAP buffer.

P.S. When did the PIN start only allowing numbers? Mine has letters in it, so that's why it won't work anymore.
richiem
Traffic Value: $283.24108 Philippines
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11/06/2020 05:00
(just for fun) smile

PIN stands for Personal Identification *Number*
totoer008
Traffic Value: $1,804.70567 France
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11/06/2020 13:40
Like in PTCSHARE I believe that the marketplace is killing the advertisers drive. I haven’t bought a single one since it was possible. The only I bought ads was in PTCSHARE when it was not possible. Without the possibility to do it, it allows to generate more cash and spin it faster and also create actual value. Ptcshare value is so low it reminds me of digadz
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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11/06/2020 14:06
@richiem

Yes, it would affect smaller traders but only in the short term. Once the huge backlog of BAPs start to drop then the value of each BAP should go up assuming the sales remain the same. With the larger buying power it would clean up and speed up the markets in general, I think

I don't think they would need to do it for very long. The BAPs are already dropping. I think if we could accelerate the BAP pool drop to 500mm or so, the synergistic grind and consumption of BAP would increase
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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11/06/2020 14:20
totoer008,

It looks like your wrong. BAPs in PTCS are going up. BAPs in PV are going down. One of the differences between the two appears to be the BAP market. By not allowing the marketplace to clean out the excess BAPs at a discount we are missing a vital reduction mechanism

Maybe someone can do a study to see how PTCS has performed before and after the marketplace was removed to see if it had any effect.
richiem
Traffic Value: $283.24108 Philippines
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11/06/2020 15:19
I thought the 25% bap bonus on ptcshare is only for purchases with crypto, until I pressed the buy bulk ad button..
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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11/06/2020 16:52
@richie Seems like I messed up setting that promo, despite double/triple checking. It should be just crypto, but as it's not really hurting anyone, we'll let it be to apply to all purchases for the duration of the sale.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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11/06/2020 21:19
So, I'm curious. If we reduced the amount of BAP by 50% would the value of the ads double? Is it a 1 for 1 ratio like that?
Hoppa61
Traffic Value: $73,032.40453 Netherlands
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11/06/2020 23:40
It seems that some changes are made on how the 125x125 and 728x90 banners are displayed on Paidverts.

What I see is that only 1 type of banner is displayed and for the 125x125, the other 3 spots display an internal banner, which I can understand.

But for the 728x90 banners, out of the 2 available spots, only one is used for the banners of customers. The other one is filled with internal banners. Which I don't understand at the moment.
There are still more then 90 million of these banners to be displayed from 8 advertisers, which campaigns are years old already. 

Why not deliver these first?
richiem
Traffic Value: $283.24108 Philippines
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12/06/2020 00:14
@Hoppa61

I think that 728x90 spot is the BAP banner spot, which can only be bought with BAPs. And when there are no active campaign, shows internal banners.

But yes, I also think it should work like in PTCshare. Both banners should be available for cash and BAP and should both show active campaigns.
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